Jim Liniger voice tracks from KLLB

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Author: Scott_young
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 11:43 am
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I'll post this even though it may be of interest to only a few. Thanks to the always heads up Steve Naganuma at KBPS for preserving an old donated cart which was labeled "Lenny Lay-ins - OK anytime" and dated 3-5-1979. On the cart were 14 generic KLLB liners for use with the "Shafter" 903E automation used by "Country Club 101." I've uploaded all 14 cuts to Divshare for anyone interested. This one link should provide access to all 14 cuts.

http://www.divshare.com/download/6415015-40a

Author: Kennewickman
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 2:50 pm
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Ya, that brings back memories! Laid back Lenny.

Shaeffer/ Cetec indeed ! And even better if they had Audiophiles ! I got real good at fixing those goat roping sunzabeatches ! Station I worked for over here had Audiophiles on their 903/Cetec 7000 till 1992! Then they bought some used Instacarts from Larry Wilson @ KXL .

Author: Scott_young
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 4:23 pm
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Shafter automation and Audio Piles...whatta combination!! Gee, I hated programming the spots and figuring out how to load the Audio Piles so the spots could run as scheduled. What I wouldn't have given at the time for a pair of Instacarts for random access! Those were the days...

30 years down the track and I'm still tearing my hair out programming automation...

Author: Stevethedj
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 5:36 pm
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Scott are you still at channel 6 ??? regards steve taylor.

Author: Scott_young
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 6:01 pm
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Hi Steve!! Yeah, I'm still here. With all the ups and downs over the years I'm surprised I haven't been wished well and left to "pursue other interests" before now. 18 years and counting. So far, so good...

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 9:32 pm
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Steve: What shift did Laid Back Lenny do?

Who else was on "Country Club Stereo 101"?

Author: Stevenaganuma
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 9:59 pm
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I think Laid Back Lenny did mid-days. Many KYTE-AM jocks voice tracked on Country Club 101.

Author: Scott_young
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:01 pm
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Craig, I think Jim did middays, but my memory is a little hazy and I get The FM KYTE and Country Club mixed up. Too bad Jim never shows up here (to my knowledge) because he could probably give you some good info.

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:11 pm
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Gordon Scott did mornings on "The FM KYTE" and was on KYTE AM when the country format moved to AM. I think he was part of Country Club too, but I didn't listen to much country. Corkey Coreson is another voice my brain wants to associate with Country Club. JJ Jeffrey is another.

Author: Stevenaganuma
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:30 pm
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JJ Jeffrey voice tracked on Country Club 101 under the name Bill Jeffrey (or Bill Best). I think I remember JJ using two different names. Everyone else used their KYTE-AM air name. I had to do some voice tracking along with Andy Barber, Pat Clarke and Tom Brooks.

Gordon Scott was mornings on KYTE-FM & Country Club. Seems to me the new management bumped him to overnights when Gary Galliger was brought in to do mornings on 97 Country (KYTE-AM).

Author: Craig_adams
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:48 pm
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Steve: Thanks! Nice info guys. Never knew JJ Jeffrey used an aka name other than JJ. I'll add him to my AKA DJ List.(It just keeps growing).

Author: Robin_mitchell
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 8:43 am
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I came aboard as a consultant after GM Verl Wheeler (ex-KJR, ex-KCKN Kansas City Kaye-Smith) made the change. Chris Collier was Ops. Mgr., and Country PD.

KYTE was still Top 40 with Mike Davis as PD, and Country Club 101 was obviously country. Was Laid-Back doing a live FM shift? I'd known Jim since '63...but don't know about Phase I of KLLB.
I gotta believe Verl "staffed up" the FM, and then made the switch to 97 Country AM, & Rock Deluxe 101.

It was envisioned as simply flipping the formats to the different bands/frequencies, but somehow KLLB/KB-101 became a hybrid Top 40. KGW and KMJK were already in the game, so it niched until finally becoming #1 Mon-Sun 6a-Mid A25-49 as a Pre-Oldies hybrid playing one Top 10 Current each half-hour.

As I recall, the initial 97 Country staff (probably transferred from KLLB) was Gary Gallagher, Laid-Back Lenny (Jim Liniger), Don
Porter...was also MD to Chris Collier), Corky Coreson, Miles Cameron, & ???

I remember Don Porter's Country Music credo was "booze, broads, & bad times." He said focus on those 3 and your music's on-target.

Interestingly, Gary Gallagher and Corky Coreson were both also a part of the 97 Country Band that played promotional gigs throughout the area.

And yes, JJ Jeffrey used Bill Best on-air with Country. He was JJ Jeffrey on KB-101.

Author: Valerie_ring
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 9:56 am
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Laid Back Lenny was part of the first original jock lineup for K103 (1984)He did mid-days for years until the George Johns Boys came in. You know Jim has a very lucrative business. It's Telehold, I'm
sure you're heard him on phone prompts all over the city (and country.

Author: Waynes_world
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:38 am
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Whatever became of Lenny? he worked at KKSN for awhile where I met him

Author: Stevenaganuma
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 4:41 pm
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Robin...Wasn't it Don Perry who was the 97 Country MD? Seems to me, Jim Rose did afternoons and LA Marsh did overnights. Myles Cameron is now at KSFO/San Francisco and does voice work.

http://www.cwproductions.com/

Author: Robin_mitchell
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 6:41 pm
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Don Perry....you're right, Steve. I worked with Perry & Porter over the years. Apparently, just grabbed the wrong name from the memory banks.

You were there at KB101 in the Rock Deluxe days, too!!!

Author: Stevenaganuma
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 6:54 pm
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Yes, fun times. KB101 was my first experience with computer generated music logs. In 1980, the dual 5.25 inch floppy drives were high tech.

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 9:13 pm
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Wayne, the post just before yours contains the answer you seek.

Author: Craig_adams
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:54 pm
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As you know this is Laid Back Lenny's thread and after getting his E-Mail from multiple sources I thought we have to hear from the man himself. Jim just E-Mailed me back giving me the OK to post his most interesting E-Mail:
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Craig,

Good to hear from you. I check out PDX Radio daily but linger in the shadows. Enjoy your radio history and find that you're very accurate based on some of my radio experiences back in the 60's thru 80's at KYXI, KXL, K103 and KWJJ. As a native Portlander, I'm not familiar with most of the folks posting on a daily basis since I left radio in 1989 after 30 years behind the mic. Of course I know Scott Young, Steve Naganuma, Mark Andrews, Harrry Christensen, Joel Miller, John Williams, Craig Walker, Michael Bailey, Tom Parker, Alan Lawson, Janine Wolf, Valerie Ring, Dave LaRog, the late Dick Novak, John Salisbury, and Jeff Grimes, Brian Jennings, Jeff Clark, Inese, Tom Murphy, Roger Ferrier, the late Mike Phillips, Bob Brooks, Gloria, Iris and all of the crew at KGON, plus many others that have since left the radio biz.

When it comes to 101.1 FM, the late 70s were spent at the old KOIN studios and the station was known as The FM KYTE (KYTE-FM) after Gaylord purchased it from KOIN...kind of a soft rock format with the late Gordon Scott mornings, me mid days, Corky Coreson (I think) afternoons, and I tracked 7 to midnight for a while along with Andy Barber. 97 KYTE was rockin' down the hall featuring London & Engleman, Pat Clark, Andy Barber, JJ Jefferies, Ron Lenord, Karen Knight and many other really fine top 40 jocks. We were at the KOIN building for a short time while Mike Cooley and his engineering team were building the finest studios in Portland (still being used today) up at 2040 SW 1st & Lincoln...the Old Equitable Life building.

Unfortunately, my memory is a bit foggy after we moved to the new building in late ''79 - early '80. (Sorry to be saying "late" so many times...but it's getting late) We switched the FM call to KLLB (Keep Lenny Laid Back) and the station was known as Country Club 101...and Country Club Stereo 101. The format was only on for a short time and was automated frequently with that Shafter system that Scott and Kennewick Man were mentioning the past few days. I tracked quite a bit after my mid-day air shift and was only on the FM side briefly before the country format switched over to the AM... 97 Country - KYTE around mid 1980, if memory serves. I honestly can't remember who did mornings on Country Club 101...probably Gordon Scott. Afternoon drive may have been Corky Coreson, but I'm just not sure...so no official history on my part. Seems like the station was frequently automated with yours truly holding down the fort on a daily basis. When the country format switched to AM, the FM call quickly became KB101 with Robin Mitchel as PD. You probably know the story better than I do. Sorry I can't be of more help. My wife always says "I have a great memory...it's just SHORT".

The original lineup as 97 Country hit the air on September 4, 1979 was Gary Gallagher 6-9, LBL 9-Noon, Don Perry Noon-3, Jim Rose, 3-7, Myles Cameron, 7-Mid and LA Marsh, Mid to 6am". I can tell you we had a great time and both stations were highly rated in their day…a real fun place to work (if you can call it that). The way I look at it, I have never worked a day in my life...guess I'm pretty lucky.

Since you're interested in radio history...even though you didn't ask...coming up this summer, I'm proud to say I will have been behind the mic here in Portland for exactly 50 years!

I sat next to John Lund... http://www.lundradio.com in my first period class at Cleveland HS and discovered we had the same interest in radio (because of the exciting sounds of KISN coming on the air...and Red Robinson on KGW). We ended up buying Tom Cauthers' KPAR control board and carrier current transmitter, as he had graduated from Parkrose HS, and set it up in John's basement in SE Portland the summer of '59. Our station call was KAOS "The Teen Age Sound of the Moreland Area" broadcasting at 670 on the AM dial. We were on the air after school and on weekends until our last year at Cleveland when we set out to find a real job in radio after John got his drivers license. We ended up working at KLOG in Kelso, operating the station by ourselves throughout weekends during the summer of '62 while Russ Ripley, KLOG's PD at the time came into Portland to work weekends at KISN, and KLOG's GM left to see his girlfriend every weekend in Seattle. Pretty interesting, eh? Aren't you glad you asked?

I'm an old fart now (64 this past November) but still am going strong here at the TeleHold Towers, now celebrating 20 years self employed, producing tons of telephone messages and music on-hold productions, radio spots, narrations, web audio, etc for business around the U.S., Canada, even a couple in the UK. It's pretty much like being a production manager at a busy radio station in the recent past. I'm pretty certain there aren't many 'busy' production folks in radio these days, unfortunately.

Well, that's about it for tonight. Feel free to write if you need any additional information about the old days in Portland radio when we played records, and spots were on reel to reel or transcriptions, and the all night jock would be hanging dead in the transmitter room while I was doing the morning show! (You know the rest of the story)

Take care Craig...and keep up the good work!

Jim (Laid Off Lenny) Liniger

TeleHold Inc.
20th Anniversary

Author: Semoochie
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:25 pm
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Shouldn't that be, "I check out PDX Radio daily but Liniger in the shadows"? :-)

Author: Randy_in_eugene
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:05 am
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When I first discovered the country format had moved to AM, it was in the middle of the night and Gordon Scott was on.

Author: Semoochie
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 1:27 am
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I listened to the switch. They were supposed to run "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" on both stations so you knew where to go but one of them didn't. I don't remember which one. It's a shame they didn't just move KYTE's format to FM. Who knows; they might still be around! By the way, I sat in on Jim's show twice, once as the FM Kyte and again on Country Club 101.

Author: Craig_adams
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 2:52 am
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Thanks to Jim Liniger.

"97 KYTE" DJ Line-up (debuted May 12, 1977)
London & Engleman (Jon & Ron) Mornings.
Pat Clark (shift?)
Andy Barber (shift?)
JJ Jefferies (shift?)
Ron Leonard (shift?)
Karen Knight (shift?)
[Input from pdxradio posters would be helpful on shift times.]

"The FM Kite" DJ Line-up (debuted May 12, 1977)
Gordon Scott, Mornings.
Laid Back Lenny, Middays.
Corky Coreson, Afternoons?
Laid Back Lenny & Andy Barber, VTed Evenings.

"97 Country" DJ Line-up (debuted September 4, 1979)
Gary Gallagher, 6-9am.
Laid Back Lenny, 9-Noon.
Don Perry, Noon-3.
Jim Rose, 3-7pm.
Myles Cameron, 7-Midnight.
LA Marsh, Midnight-6am.

"The FM Kite" became "Country Club 101" on April 6, 1979. Then switching to "KB101-FM" on September 4, 1979.
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Interesting to note, Jim mentioning Carrier Current Station KAOS. I don't have any information on this part of the old KPAR 670kc history.

Jim if you're reading this, I need to know the address of the KAOS studio. Can you remember what John Lunds father's name was? I can look for the address in my 1957 phone book.

So KAOS operated from Summer 1959 to Spring 1962 if you had jobs at KLOG in the Summer 1962?

Was KAOS still connected to telephone circuits to Woodland Park Lumber Co. and to a home a mile north of what is now Maywood Park?

Also, was the KAOS broadcast schedule like that of the old KPAR which was on 4pm to 8 or 9pm and all day Saturday. Was KOAS on the air Sundays?

How many staffed KAOS? Tom Cauthers mentioned awhile back KPAR had about 20 kids from Parkrose, Grant & Reynolds High Schools.

Author: Kennewickman
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:34 am
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Thanks Jim, that was entertaining.

Lot of things I never knew about you. I suppose that when I was hanging around you guys in the 70s , all that personal history was just mundane same ole' same ole as far as you were concerned. I would have enjoyed hearing those stories back then. I like the story of KAOS ! Great activity for High School kids ! Kept you off the streets didnt it?

Funny thing about the Shafter/Cetec automation we had up here @ KALE, they bought the instacarts for it in 92' then used it till 98' the broadcast company I worked for partime bought the station, got a Wizard, gave the Shafter to our Voc-Tech school district FMer on 88.l. So of course the Voc instructor for the TV - Radio program here knew where this thing came from and came walking into my office/shop here at the Kennewick School district one day ( I have worked here fulltime for 18 years now ). Of course he knew I was still in radio and worked for the district fulltime and tapped me for a set up using the instacarts to program their afterhours and weekend/holiday programming.

They used that piecemeal thing for 3 years till they bought a NEXGEN. I put a whole crap load of Instacarts on that thing so if they screwed up I didnt have to run right over there and fix them. They were just able to find another slot to program a cart into.

I had a hard time getting away from that thing ! It all went to the local landfill , if I remember correctly now.

... Alan Cook , ' The Kennewickman " ..........

Author: Jimbo
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:18 pm
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Craig,
I can't say for sure and I don't know anything about KAOS. I knew about KPAR and the Cauthers. I had gone to their place in Maywood Park back in the mid 50's. That is where I got my initial info on carrier current.
However, Jim's post said that he and John went to Cleveland HS which is on Powell (at 24th?). He also said that they put the station in John's basement in Moreland, which was in the Cleveland district. That is quite a distance from Maywood Park and Woodland Park Lumber company, which are in Parkrose. The Moreland area is around Bybee and McLoughlin.

Author: Craig_adams
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 6:00 pm
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Here's Jim's reply to my questions above and more great background on KAOS:
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Our carrier current radio station was located in Ru and Edna Lund's custom basement studios at 7110 SE 29th, Portland, OR (Eastmoreland). John's dad, Ru, (in his 90s...currently living in a retirement community in the Newberg area) finished the basement in very nice wood panneling and built a studio for us with glass windows, sound proofing, in-wall mic jacks, counter tops...the works! With all of our equipment installed it looked nicer than most radio stations at the time. (I have photos) We purchased a Rek-O-Kut turntable and Gray viscous damped tone arm (http://members.myactv.net/~je183/retro.htm) from 6th AVE Records when they closed their LP audition booths, so everything at the KAOS studios looked and sounded somewhat professional. Every week we were mailed the latest Top 40 hits of the day from ABC Records in Seattle...since John pitched them that we had a lot of 'teen' listeners (maybe 2 or 3 at the most, including John and myself).

Our transmitter was connected to the power lines coming in to John's garage and could be heard for a couple of blocks around the Eastmoreland area. You're probably thinking of Tom's KPAR hooked into the power lines at Woodland Park Lumber. KAOS was in a residential neighborhood. We had a few jocks from Cleveland HS...the most notable of which is Alan Hopwood, who also went on to spend many years in radio...possibly still on the air in the Seattle-Tacoma area. We operated most weekday afternoons after school, Saturday afternoon, and maybe an occasional Sunday. We typed program logs, a weekly Top 30 survey, and gathered plenty of PSA copy and tranks from local radio stations so we'd have that 'professional sound', rather than just 'all music'.

I am sure we didn't have a consistent on-air schedule like KPAR...just signed on whenever we had the time, or jocks to cover an hour or two shift. Again, we had only a hand-full of jocks other than John and myself...and sometimes they didn't show up for their shift (just like real radio) I believe we kept the station operating from the summer of '59 through spring of '62...then we hit the road with our R-R air checks. Our first stop was at KOHI in St. Helens. Talked with Bob Anderson, manager, for a few minutes...no openings there. Then drove across the bridge into Longview, WA...looked for radio towers...spotted one which turned out to be KLOG out in the middle of a golf course. Rolled on in to the studio and transmitter building and Russ Ripley racked up our air checks on a Maggie in the control room. Offered both of us a job on the spot...starting the following weekend! John and I ran the station the summer of '62 from 6am to Midnight Saturday, and 6am to 10pm Sunday...then headed back home in his mom's '57 Ford Fairlane like this one... http://www.familycar.com/Classics/57ford.htm, except yellow and white. As I mentioned earlier, Russ Ripley and the station manager were both out of town during the weekends so we were given the keys to the station VW bus, a trade-out at Dairy Queen and a place for our sleeping bags at the manager's apartment. Not a bad deal. John and I would trade off doing 3 or 4 hour air shifts, and when not on the board, we did the hourly rip and read news for each other from studio B using a beat up RCA 44 BX mic like this one on the upper left... http://www.bigdmc.com/WTNS.html.

I think that answers all (and more) of your questions. If you have any others, just ask and I'll spill my guts!

Jim

Author: Stevenaganuma
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 7:13 pm
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Here is the 97 KYTE-AM line-up in 1977.
6am-9m Don Wright (L&E arrived later in 77)
9-12noon JJ Jeffrey (seems to me it was Jeffrey not Jeffries)
12noon-3pm Pat Clarke
3pm-6pm Joe Michaels
6pm-10pm Ron Leonard
10pm-2am Preston Thompson
2am-6am Karen Knight

Tom Brooks I think was weekends at that time. Check out his web site for old KYTE (& more) airchecks.

http://tombrooks.net/radio.htm

Jim...seems to me Phil Conrad (guy with a very deep voice) did afternoons for awhile on the FM KYTE in 77.

Author: Craig_adams
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 7:40 pm
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Steve: Yes I was going back a forth on JJ's last name spelling. Thought I remembered him as Jeffrey but I changed it after Jim's E-Mail. By googling JJ's name you do find a lot of JJ Jefferies references in Portland radio so I went with that spelling.

Steve you are correct. After looking at an old Kisn-FM phone list, it is: J.J. Jeffrey. Buy the way this list has our short lived morning man listed. Bob Dearborn, you might remember him on milk cartons well after he was in Seattle at KIXI where he was PD for a number of years.

Author: Stevenaganuma
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 8:26 pm
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Tom Brooks has a great KYTE composite aircheck on his web site with JJ on it.

http://tombrooks.net/radio.htm

Author: Kkb
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 9:07 pm
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Getting to hear Ron Leonard for 30 seconds was worth it! Wow.

Author: Stevenaganuma
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 9:34 pm
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Kkb... Check out this archived Ron Leonard aircheck posted by Scott Young. It is 45 minutes unscoped.

../208652/279885.html"#f7f7f7" align=left> Author: Radiohead
Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:17 pm

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I learned my radio basics from Liniger. I can remember several times laughing so hard that I couldn't go on the air.

I recall the morning after a KYXI Christmas party, where I got hammered out of my mind, I was doing sports. He introduced me after the weather forecast for the coast. He said, "speaking of rough bar conditions, here's sports". I couldn't control my self. I laughed so hard on the air that I didn't to that sportscast.

Liniger is the best boss I ever worked for.

Author: Markandrews
Friday, January 30, 2009 - 1:26 am
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Jim had a great time, immensely enjoyed what he did, and instilled some good work habits and ethics that stick with me to this day when he granted this greenhorn a spot on the KYXI nightwatch...Amen, Radiohead!

Author: Craig_adams
Friday, January 30, 2009 - 3:20 am
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Just got confirmation from Corky Coreson, he was Afternoons on "The FM Kite". This info. for our DJ line-up above. Corky also mentioned he was there at the beginning, since he was working for KOIN when the sale took place.

Author: Craig_adams
Friday, January 30, 2009 - 1:59 pm
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This next letter from Jim are answers to questions I E-Mailed him. How much did KPAR cost to buy from Tom Cauthers. Well Jim sends me this entire list he still has. He's like a lot of us and keeps a lot of memories. Also wanted to know what happened to KAOS. I talked Jim into oking this E-Mail which was originally for me only but I gotta share this:
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John and I were 50/50 Co-Managers of KAOS (according to our business cards). I assume we both owned the station equally.

No stockholders

KAOS / Tom Cauthers - KPAR Equipment Purchase Transaction

4/18/59 - $15.00 Down Payment
5/09/59 - $25.00 Transmitter
6/06/59 - $34.50 Controls (Board)
6/15/59 - $2.40 Knobs
6/23/59 - $1.60 Spray & micro-micro farad capacitor
5/20/60 - $37.50 Transmitter - New
5/29/60 - $40.00 Arm, Turntable & Cartridge

John and I purchased the remainder of equipment...Rek-O-Kut Turntable, Gray Tone Arm, GE Cartridge (described earllier), remote turntable switches, Webcor Reel to Reel machine, 2 Sure mics, turntable preamps, indoor/outdoor thermometer for "time & temp"...studio amp and monitor, on-air lights, Trim headphones, copy stand, home made record racks for 45's, etc.

We edited the Stan Freberg 'KOS Radio' spoof 45 record for station jingles, and cut an acetate (transcription - which I still have) with several tracks of jingles and liners with Stan Kenton stingers, courtesy of KPDQ on Sandy BLVD. in Portland.

I'm really not sure what happened to the station gear after 1962. More than likely ended up at the dump. John would probably know.

Have fun Craig!

Jim


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