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  1. duxrule
    Member

    "And like I said, as long as the end result is that democrats lose, that's all that matters."

    Right now, it doesn't look like that might happen. Then what?

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 02:04 PM #
  2. missing_kskd
    Member

    Plan B is to just keep on hating the next President!

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 02:47 PM #
  3. Skybill9
    Member

    "Plan B is to just keep on hating the next President!"

    ESPECIALLY if the next president is a democrat.

    "Right now, it doesn't look like that might happen. Then what?"

    That remains to be seen. No one will know for sure until after the mid-term elections!

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 03:17 PM #
  4. edselehr
    Member

    Bill, if you're looking for smaller government, Republicans are not the answer - Democrats are.

    Carter reduced federal nonmilitary personnel by 8,000.

    Reagan INCREASED it by 238,000.

    George H.W. Bush reduced it by 30,000.

    Clinton reduced it by 380,000.

    George W. Bush INCREASED it by 53,000 employees.

    The small government, lean and mean political party, seems to be the Democratic Party. President Clinton reduced the size of the federal government’s nonmilitary employees by OVER 10%.

    The “so called” small government President Reagan INCREASED the nonmilitary size of government by almost 10%.

    In fact, Democratic president Bill Clinton reduced the size of the federal government employee size to PRE- REAGAN levels.

    And Obama has decreased it (as of 2010) by 35,000, and probably a lot more since then.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2011/08/24/big-government-obama-reagan.html

    Again, why do you hate on Democrats so much? They are following your playbook.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 04:14 PM #
  5. Andrew
    Member

    Under Clinton at least, a lot of the reduction in US government workforce was partly illusory; many government functions were simply replaced by private contractors - still paid by US taxpayer dollars but not considered "government employees." For example, the US military doesn't prepare its own meals anymore; contractors do it. Fewer US military personnel now have mess duty.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 04:36 PM #
  6. edselehr
    Member

    Quite true, Andrew. But all that Skybill cares about is that GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING IT. Because tyranny.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 06:00 PM #
  7. skeptical
    Member

    "But all that Skybill cares about is that GOVERNMENT IS NOT DOING IT. Because tyranny."

    Yet he's the biggest pro-big "LOCK THE CRIMINALS UP" government supporter on the board.

    He simply can't MAN UP and admit his rhetoric on the board requires big government spending to house all the people he believes throwing in jail would solve society's ills. Hypocrite.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 06:07 PM #
  8. Skybill9
    Member

    "Yet he's the biggest pro-big "LOCK THE CRIMINALS UP"

    What would you do with the criminals? Sign them up for the union? Oh wait, most of them probably are already union pukes.

    Better yet, since you are so against locking up the criminals, let's send them to live with you at your house.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 06:24 PM #
  9. saveitnow
    Member

    There are some locked up for not paying child support, really dangerous people.

    Why are they locked up. Because the county staff want a mix for their employees. Some tough asses and some who will jump when told to.

    Start with the death penalty convicts automatic and work down. The underpaid guards will quit left and right if all they have is harden criminals.

    So who has the perfect solution, not me.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 07:05 PM #
  10. edselehr
    Member

    Bill, we all (including you) agree that locking up the really bad criminals is a good idea. But you seem incapable of admitting that the more bad guys you lock up, the bigger government gets.

    In fact, according to the framers of the Constitution, the ability of government to imprison people is it's greatest potential source of tyranny. That's why the rights of the accused are so prominently enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

    Posted on July 31, 2014 - 07:12 PM #