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Wendy Davis book reveals abortion

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  • Started 6 years ago by Vitalogy
  • Latest reply from Andy_brown

  1. Vitalogy
    Member

    Some people here would have forced Wendy Davis to put her life at risk.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/05/wendy-davis-book-reveals-abortion/?intcmp=latestnews

    Posted on September 6, 2014 - 12:07 PM #
  2. jerry1949
    Member

    "I could feel her little body tremble violently, as if someone were applying an electric shock to her, and I knew then what I needed to do," Davis writes. "She was suffering."

    Wendy Davis

    Posted on September 6, 2014 - 12:30 PM #
  3. Deane Johnson
    Member

    This would be an example of an abortion being appropriate.

    Posted on September 6, 2014 - 01:36 PM #
  4. jerry1949
    Member

    Wendy Davis had two abortions. The first was because of an ectopic pregnancy. Prolifers do not dispute that there is a need for recourse in this situation and there would never be legislation prohibiting termination of an ectopic pregnancy.

    This is why she had her second abortion (in the second trimester): "Davis writes in 'Forgetting to be Afraid' that she had an abortion after an exam revealed that the brain of the fetus had developed in complete separation on the right and left sides."

    Her comments about it:

    "I could feel her little body tremble violently, as if someone were applying an electric shock to her, and I knew then what I needed to do," Davis writes. "She was suffering."

    These comments are interesting. She sees the fetus as a person which can feel pain. She sees the fetus in the same light as a pro-lifer, except that she believes in euthanasia to end suffering.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/wendy-davis-book-abortion_n_5775700.html

    Posted on September 7, 2014 - 01:16 PM #
  5. Andrew
    Member

    jerry1949: These comments are interesting.

    They are perhaps "interesting" to you because you don't understand what "pro-choice" means.

    It means not everyone who is "pro-choice" likes abortion very much or even thinks a fetus isn't a person.

    It means it should be UP TO THE WOMAN AND HER DOCTORS, not up to you or the government, when to have an abortion.

    Most people who are pro-choice, even women who would never have an abortion themselves, understand the meaning intuitively.

    Posted on September 7, 2014 - 01:32 PM #
  6. jerry1949
    Member

    So there are pro-choicers who believe the fetus IS a person and that a woman has the right to terminate the life of her child in the womb?

    They believe it is a person at what point in the pregnancy?

    Posted on September 7, 2014 - 01:38 PM #
  7. Andrew
    Member

    jerry1949: So there are pro-choicers who believe the fetus IS a person and that a woman has the right to terminate the life of her child in the womb?

    Yes, of course there are.

    They believe it is a person at what point in the pregnancy?

    Everyone agrees that a baby is a person; everyone (or most people) agrees that a sperm and an egg that haven't yet met aren't a person. People disagree on where the line is. But it's irrelevant. The point is, it's up to the woman to decide where that line is, for her, not for you or the government to decide. Religion is similar; open-minded people are OK with having their own belief in a god (or not) but allowing others to make up their own mind, not self-righteously insist other people can't decide on religion for themselves.

    Posted on September 7, 2014 - 01:59 PM #
  8. Andy_brown
    Member

    "She sees the fetus as a person which can feel pain."

    "So there are pro-choicers who believe the fetus IS a person"

    You are making huge leaps there, ace. This is one women in a traumatic situation. Not an entire movement.

    Isn't just like you to twist other people's words and posts here on the board into something that they are not to suit your own personal agenda.

    Get a grip.

    Posted on September 7, 2014 - 02:01 PM #