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Vatican follies continue

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  • Started 7 years ago by Uncle Mort
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  1. Uncle Mort
    Member

    Vatican "cooperates" with Dominican authorities by whisking naughty archbishop out of the country ahead of arrest. Setting a fine example. Gotta coach the old witness and next maybe an extended hospital stay?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/jozef-wesolowski-sex-abuse_n_3917090.html
    ...or diplomatic immunity? So much for "tough".

    "...The Vatican has long managed to fend off civil lawsuits in the U.S. seeking to hold it liable for the conduct of abusive priests or negligent bishops who moved pedophiles around from parish to parish rather than report them to police. It has done so by successfully arguing that neither priests nor bishops are Vatican employees, and that the Holy See therefore cannot be held liable for their criminal conduct.

    The case of Wesolowski is different since he is most certainly a Vatican employee, the pope's own personal envoy to the Dominican Republic...

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 07:50 PM #
  2. Uncle Mort
    Member

    Priest probably murdered this girl. But God was Away on Business as always. God was busy being worried about blacks mixing with whites. Worried about how He forgot to mention 'abortion' in the bible. Meanwhile the Church took care of its own and moved another bad priest away, to cause harm to more innocents. Notice how he was convicted of attacking another girl in church and got off with a fine and no time. Those were the days huh? Blegh.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/justice/garza-texas-priest-murder-case/index.html

    ...An autopsy determined Garza had been raped while in a coma, and then had died from suffocation. Near Garza's body investigators found items that belonged to the church, including a candelabra.
    One item, a metallic Kodak slide photo viewer, belonged to a 27-year-old priest who was assigned to the church: the Rev. John Feit.
    To say the scandal rocked McAllen is an understatement.
    Questioned by police, Feit failed lie detector tests. What was also suspicious was that just 24 days before the killing, Feit had been arrested for attacking another young woman at a church in a town about 10 miles from McAllen. Feit pleaded no contest to misdemeanor aggravated assault. A judge found him guilty and fined him $500 with no prison time.
    All this took place in 1960...
    ..."We were accusing a priest that -- in those days priests were infallible, " said Lynda De La Vina, who was 9 years old at the time.
    Another cousin, Noemi Sigler, was only 10 when Garza was killed. "It was impossible for a priest to do such a deed. I mean, if you thought of it, that would be sacrilegious."
    But Feit was the likely suspect, said former Texas Ranger Lt. Rudy Jaramillo, who started investigating the murder in 2002 when he served with a Rangers cold case unit. The evidence, he said, "suggests and indicates that that's who it's pointing to."
    Authorities at the time protected Feit, said Sigler. "I don't know whether it was out of respect for the church or anger or fear, I have no idea," she said. Shortly after the killing, the church transferred Feit far away to a monastery. He would be moved to other locations over time, and about three years after the killing, the church transferred Feit to Our Lady of Assumption monastery in Ava, Missouri.
    Sheltering Feit "was about protecting the church and somehow believing that the church takes care of their own," said De La Vina. "It was the best that could have happened at that point. Because nothing else was being done."

    Sigler describes her view in more succinct terms: It was "a cover-up."

    Posted on September 18, 2013 - 07:10 AM #
  3. Broadway
    Member

    A higher law...
    Hebrews 10:30 This is no light matter. God has warned us that he’ll hold us to account and make us pay. He was quite explicit: “Vengeance is mine, and I won’t overlook a thing” and “God will judge his people.” Nobody’s getting by with anything, believe me.

    Posted on September 18, 2013 - 02:31 PM #
  4. Andy_brown
    Member

    Vengeance is punishment, Broadway. What Mort is talking about is justice. They aren't the same thing in the minds of most human beings that aren't hypnotized sheep gyrating through pages of ancient scripture with limited relevance.

    Posted on September 18, 2013 - 03:14 PM #
  5. NoParty
    Member

    The continuing saga of the Catholic church couldn't have happened to a better organization.

    God's wrath will be swift when the end time comes.

    Posted on September 18, 2013 - 09:49 PM #
  6. Uncle Mort
    Member

    This priest kept his suitcase packed,was moved from parish to parish many times before being caught en flagrante:
    http://wnep.com/2013/09/20/old-forge-priest-caught-molesting-teenage-boy/
    God was away on bizness and had no comment.

    Posted on September 21, 2013 - 06:47 AM #
  7. Valerie ring
    Member

    As a Catholic, I stopped going to church long ago. I found it better to cut out the middle man.

    Posted on September 21, 2013 - 07:57 AM #
  8. stevethedj
    Member

    Oh, the preist was just sucking the sin out of the young man.(satire).

    Posted on September 21, 2013 - 08:56 AM #
  9. Uncle Mort
    Member

    God is powerless to make the sun NOT rise. Hence we cannot suppose he 'makes it rise'. God cannot make a choice there.
    Likewise he has no power to prevent evil, no power to punish it NOW. Bad conduct, religious hypocrisy continue for decades, centuries right under his nose with his sworn defenders just like it always has. Right there in the good book this god says LATER when the bad guy's dead and you aren't watching, BELIEVE GOD he's gonna suffer so bad he'll wish he hadn't robbed you and made you suffer while you were living. LATER you'll be free. But here on earth you gotta do what you're told, bend over and pray. (And pay a ten percent tithe on your wages to build a pretty church for the bishop.)
    No wonder Christians are so useful to dictators, when not trying to dictate their faith.

    Posted on September 21, 2013 - 09:40 AM #
  10. Uncle Mort
    Member

    "Anonymous Same-Sex" or A.S.S. was this priest's modus operandi, plus the usual children of the parish. went on and on and so did the coverup in this Minnesota case:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/23/minnesota-church-officials-covered-up-priests-child-molestation-before-turning-him-in/

    ...Wehmeyer was caught by police while he was parked at a local park reportedly known in the area as a popular site for what McDonough referred to as “anonymous same-sex sexual encounters.” Wehmeyer told a police officer at the time that he was not aware of the park’s reputation, but MPR reported that after leaving, he was seen circling back to the park twice.

    The memo also referred to a “suggestive conversation” between Wehmeyer and a 19-year-old man and his 20-year-old friend at a local bookstore in 2004, in which Wehmeyer allegedly asked one of the men, “Are you fu*king horny right now?” According to MPR, a parishoner reported the bookstore encounter to McDonough and was told Wehmeyer was receiving counseling.

    But in the memo, McDonough downplays such an approach, arguing that Wehmeyer was “obtaining stimulation by ‘playing with fire,’” and not looking for sex and advocating an in-house solution to his actions.

    “I do not remember whether [Wehmeyer] has a priest support group of any sort,” McDonough wrote. “I think he would do well to have some real friends who can challenge him about how he is doing in living his priestly vocation with integrity.”

    By the time the memo was sent, MPR reported, McDonough had also been alerted to a psychological assessment stating that Wehmeyer had an addiction to sex, as well as personnel documents stating Wehmeyer had violated the organization’s code of conduct on several occasions. Wehmeyer was also reported on three separate occasions in 2009, including once by a priest accusing Wehmeyer of propositioning him for sex.

    But in 2010, McDonough named Wehmeyer to serve as pastor for two local parishes. In an interview with MPR that same year, McDonough said the archdiocese’s top priority was protecting church members.

    Posted on September 23, 2013 - 04:23 PM #