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The Pope says "All Religions Are True"

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  • Started 6 years ago by duxrule
  • Latest reply from kennewickman

  1. duxrule
    Member

    I'm starting to like this new Pope more and more. I'm shocked that this didn't get more coverage when he said it several weeks ago:

    Pope Francis Condemns Racism And Declares That “All Religions Are True” At Historic Third Vatican Council

    "...The Third Vatican Council concluded today with Pope Francis announcing that Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

    “Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.

    In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”"

    http://diversitychronicle.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/pope-francis-condemns-racism-and-declares-that-all-religions-are-true-at-historic-third-vatican-council/

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 08:28 AM #
  2. edselehr
    Member

    dux, these are pretty amazing remarks. So amazing, in fact, that I had to do some Googling to confirm that this was true. I don't think it is.

    First of all, I don't see that a "Third Vatican Council" has been convened by the Pope, and if it had I'm sure we would have heard about it (the Second Vatican Council was in 1962).

    Second, excerpt any part of this quote and Google it (in quotes), and it only links back to the Diversity Chronicle article you cited.

    This article can only be some optimistic prognostication by a fan of Francis; it's not real.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 09:51 AM #
  3. jr_tech
    Member

    Diversity Chronicle disclamer:

    The original content on this blog is largely satirical.

    “I ceased in the year 1764 to believe that one can convince one’s opponents with arguments printed in books. It is not to do that, therefore, that I have taken up my pen, but merely so as to annoy them, and to bestow strength and courage on those on our own side, and to make it known to the others that they have not convinced us.” – Georg Christoph Lichtenberg.

    It is in the spirit of the above quote that I write. Who am I you may ask? My name is Erik Thorson. I created this blog for my own personal amusement.

    Copyright © 2013 Diversity Chronicle All Rights Reserved.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 10:09 AM #
  4. missing_kskd
    Member

    That would be stunning to see happen. However, I don't believe the core basis of doctrine would allow for that statement.

    There is an unspoken tolerance for various faiths, against people who lack faith, or those who exploit it (Scientology), and those that criticize it (Pastavarians), et al.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 11:12 AM #
  5. duxrule
    Member

    OK, so I got sucked in. Someone else posted it on FB, and I ran with it. :oops: My bad. Still, it's a well-written sentiment. I wish it were true.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 12:03 PM #
  6. Chris_taylor
    Member

    Dux-

    Don't worry, I've posted things that proved to be false, too. You feel bad for awhile, but you'll get over it and so will the rest of us.

    Have some eggnog and keep being who you are.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 01:15 PM #
  7. missing_kskd
    Member

    Yep! No worries here. You don't hit the ball, unless you take a swing with the bat. Happens.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 01:16 PM #
  8. shipwreck
    Member

    What time next year do you think he will mysteriously die?

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 08:33 PM #
  9. duxrule
    Member

    It won't be long. Just like John the XXIII. Francis is rocking too many boats.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 10:02 PM #
  10. kennewickman
    Member

    He is rocking some boats, yes..but I think *they* knew that about him well before the white smoke rose over the Vatican.

    Posted on December 21, 2013 - 10:09 PM #