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Police officer brands Ferguson protesters 'rabid dogs'

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  • Started 5 years ago by Vitalogy
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  1. missing_kskd
    Member

    Sure. Attacking a cop could end up a very bad result, or death.

    We get it.

    What isn't being proven here is the cop working to prevent that outcome. You probably didn't read my post above, but that's a core difference between the two enforcement doctrines.

    One works toward a good outcome. The other works toward compliance and control.

    Very different outcome potentials. When the latter is coupled with a disregard for people, say black people, but it could be trannies, or hookers, or asians, whatever... the number of bad outcomes goes way up over the expected norms, which is what we are discussing here.

    Under that, we have the overall expectation of a just society, not lord of the flies kind of shit going on.

    This means having a bad night shouldn't leave a person dead. We shouldn't cultivate that expectation either, and it appears a fair number of us are, in fact, cultivating that expectation, which is a load of authoritarian shit.

    Posted on August 23, 2014 - 07:09 PM #
  2. Andy_brown
    Member

    "There are individuals who think that a thug attacking a cop, smacking him in the face, trying to take his gun, then charging at him is not a reason to get shot."

    We don't know what the video camera in the patrol car captured. We don't know how the interaction went down, in what order, and whether there really was an attempt to charge at him or whether or not there was an attempt to give up on the part of the victim. You haven't jumped to conclusions, yet, Deane, so don't start now. We'll all find out soon enough what the missing facts are. Then we can all agree or disagree with the Grand Jury's decision based on those facts. Right now the pot of supposed facts is somewhat murky.

    Posted on August 23, 2014 - 09:29 PM #
  3. Deane Johnson
    Member

    "We don't know what the video camera in the patrol car captured."

    There wasn't one. This is how misunderstandings get started.

    Posted on August 24, 2014 - 02:58 AM #
  4. Andy_brown
    Member

    Those witness accounts that have been made public so far, have more in common then they don't. All concur that there was an initial struggle between Brown and Wilson, while Wilson was sitting in his patrol car and Brown was at the window. All the witness accounts also concur that Wilson was at some point out of his car, firing his gun repeatedly as he walked towards Brown, who was facing him at a distance estimated to be anywhere from 15 feet to 30 feet.

    Posted on August 24, 2014 - 11:58 AM #
  5. Deane Johnson
    Member

    Here's a really nice Opinion think piece written by a very intelligent black women who lives in a nearby community to Ferguson. It focuses on what it's like to be a black family in America even when you're affluent, well educated, and are in a highly professional job.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/25/opinion/norwood-ferguson-sons-brown-police/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29

    Posted on August 25, 2014 - 03:27 PM #
  6. Vitalogy
    Member

    That was a nice article and unfortunately a reality for a lot of black families. There's no question subtle, institutionalized racism is still alive and well.

    Posted on August 25, 2014 - 07:44 PM #