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  1. HD
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    "If you’re President of the United States, and therefore unofficial Leader of the Free World, then your most important job every day is to make everyone feel calm and secure even as chaos reigns.

    POTUS is supposed to be a global figurehead for stability.

    That’s why when George W Bush was told about the second World Trade Center attack while sitting in a classroom full of kids, he didn’t jump up and race out of the room. He remained sitting, determined not to exude fear or panic in front of the cameras. It’s what Presidents have to do.

    That’s also why Martin Sheen’s character President Jed Bartlet in the West Wing was so popular – he took everything, even being shot, in his easy, confident, reassuring stride.

    Yet today, Barack Obama gave a speech to fellow Democrats in New York where he said the following words: ‘There’s a sense possibly that the world is spinning so fast and nobody is able to control it.’

    Really, Mr President? You think what we all need to hear that from you right now is that the whole planet’s going to hell in a handcart?

    YOU’RE the guy who’s supposed to be controlling it!

    Perversely, Obama then went on to infer he HAS got everything under control, boasting of how America’s had to tackle just about every major problem facing the world right now - ISIS, Ebola, Russia, climate change – virtually on its own.

    Interestingly, he also deployed the word ‘we’ as he took credit throughout this speech – in direct contrast to the word ‘they’ he deployed last week when chucking his intelligence agencies under the bus for NOT stopping the rise of ISIS. I’ve never trusted bosses who say ‘we’ when talking about supposed success and ‘they’ when talking about failure.

    The popular version: Martin Sheen’s character President Jed Bartlet 'was so popular – he took everything, even being shot, in his easy, confident, reassuring stride.'

    I trust Obama even less when he talks up the way he’s dealt with ISIS, Ebola and Russia as some kind of triumph.

    In every case, the glaring warning signs were ignored until it was way too late. ISIS is now on the rampage thoughout the Middle East, Russia grabbed Crimea and is trying hard to grab vast swathes of Ukraine, and Ebola’s both out of control and now on American soil.

    All this comes as former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta gave a damning verdict on Obama’s leadership skills, particularly over Syria, in his new book.

    Obama, of course, vowed to hit Syria hard militarily if they ‘crossed the red line’ and used chemical weapons, but then did nothing when Assad promptly used them to kill 1,400 of his own people.

    ‘It was the right thing to do,’ said Panetta, ‘but once he did that, the credibility of the United States is on the line. It was important for us to stand by our word and go in and do what a commander in chief should do.’

    Obama seems to have a lot of trouble standing by his word.

    He repeatedly promised to close down Guantanamo Bay if he became President. It’s still open.

    He repeatedly promised Newtown families he would get action on gun control after Sandy Hook. Nothing happened.

    He repeatedly promised ‘no more secrecy’ in open, more transparent government. Five years later, we discovered the NSA were secretly bugging and hacking almost the entire planet.

    As a father of four children, I’ve learned the hard way that the number one rule of parenting is never break a promise to your son or daughter. If you say you’re going to do something, then do it.

    By not keeping his promises, Obama has emboldened Assad, Putin and ISIS on the foreign stage. And made America less safe."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2785467/The-problem-isn-t-world-spinning-fast-Mr-President-s-flip-flopping-How-Obama-s-broken-promises-America-danger.html

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 02:09 PM #
  2. edselehr
    Member

    Herb, you're like the guy who puts together ransom notes by cutting words and sentences from other people's writings. When can you start a thread with your own thoughts and words? When can you even post with your own thoughts and words?

    And what kind of discussion would you like to see come of this thread?

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 02:12 PM #
  3. Deane Johnson
    Member

    Piers Morgan hit the nail right on the head.

    I know the liberals will want to try and cut this to ribbons, denigrating those who dare repeat it. The reason for that is that Obama is no longer defensible, even by liberals. Even his previous supporters are taking positions like Piers Morgan did in the above piece posted by Herb.

    Somehow, beating up Herb will make Obama's missing leadership and common sense seem less onerous. Is that correct?

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 02:29 PM #
  4. Vitalogy
    Member

    Bush a figurehead for stability? Good god, you've got to ge kidding.

    Bush was a buffoon who didn't know how to react after hearing news of 9/11. You could see it in his eyes.

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 02:40 PM #
  5. Amus
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  6. HD
    Member

    "...what kind of discussion would you like to see come of this thread?"

    That's a fair question, Edselehr.

    First of all, my posts vary. And because credibility counts, I reinforce my views with news sources...many of them left-leaning, by the way.

    But more important, given the severe problems America now has largely due to mistakes or even malicious intent from this administration, and given the extreme ridicule from the left toward former leaders like Mr. Bush, whose policies helped prevent much of what we're now dealing with, some intellectual honesty from the left is in order.

    So rather than defend the indefensible, how about some honesty, even humility about when your guys goof up?

    It's not enough to say it never matters. If you wanna call others out on such screw-ups, expect to be called out on it when your guy does the same, or even worse.

    My point is to admit where the administration has fallen short. That will only enhance credibility. As long as some attempt to defend the indefensible, don't expect kudos.

    For example, I have never defended big tobacco and never will. That's a largely Republican position from which I have consistently distanced myself. Same thing with taxes. I would support raising them in certain selected areas. I'm certain I could provide more examples.

    How about you?

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 03:06 PM #
  7. edselehr
    Member

    "So rather than defend the indefensible, how about some honesty, even humility about when your guys goof up?"

    Fair 'nuff. You start.

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 03:14 PM #
  8. duxrule
    Member

    OK, let's start that discussion. This paragraph, for instance:

    "But more important, given the severe problems America now has largely due to mistakes or even malicious intent from this administration..."

    This is an utter falsehood. There are myriad accusations, but very little in the way of ACTUAL EVIDENCE of "mistakes or malicious intent." Concrete and substantial accomplishments by this administration are also framed as detriments, rather than assets. This has also been backed up with solid, verifiable and first-source evidence.

    How about some acknowledgement of the actual accomplishments of this administration, before we go picking at the warts? Nobody's perfect, but there's proof positive that this guy isn't nearly as bad as you and the rest of the O'Haters make him out to be. "Intellectual honesty" is required on both sides of the discussion.

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 03:21 PM #
  9. HD
    Member

    Edselehr, I already gave you two examples. It's your turn.

    DuxRule, here you go: This administration got Bin Laden.

    Having said that, on occasion even administration officials admit they've screwed up.

    So when few liberals here fail to concede the obvious, they're justifiably found wanting.

    And how else to explain how Ebola and ISIS terrorists have never had it easier to enter our country through a more porous border, instigated largely by this administration. That is arguably malicious.

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 03:36 PM #
  10. duxrule
    Member

    Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt once said:

    “The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make the rest of us wonder at the possibility that we might be missing something.”

    This has been going on in Washington, D. C. since day one, in each and every presidency. The Obama administration is guilty, the GWB government is guilty, Clinton, Reagan, etc.. Of course this government has made some blunders. It's what governments do. Your claim about "making it easier to enter our country" holds no water. Ebola and people with bad intent are going to come, regardless of who is in the WH. There's no "malice" in that. It's part of the price of living in a free and open society.

    Posted on October 8, 2014 - 03:56 PM #