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  1. RadioBuggie
    Member

    Yet another blow...

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/22/politics/obamacare-subsidy-ruling/index.html

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 09:37 AM #
  2. HD
    Member

    Obama’s Law Professor: ‘I Wouldn’t Bet’ on Obamacare Surviving Next Legal Challenge

    President Obama’s old Harvard Law professor, Laurence Tribe, said that he “wouldn’t bet the family farm” on Obamacare’s surviving the legal challenges to an IRS rule about who is eligible for subsidies that are currently working their way through the federal courts.

    “I don’t have a crystal ball,” Tribe told the Fiscal Times. “But I wouldn’t bet the family farm on this coming out in a way that preserves Obamacare.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/382550/obamas-law-professor-i-wouldnt-bet-obamacare-surviving-next-legal-challenge-joel

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 10:26 AM #
  3. Master of Disaster
    Member

    I try to stay mild-mannered and level-headed on this topic, but at this point it's loud and clear that the only reason Republicans dislike ACA is because this could become the greatest lasting legacy for President Obama.

    The only way Republicans can refute this is through the name-calling and nonsense spewed throughout the Internet regarding the subject. Oh, and Republican governors acting as single-individual-death-panels through blocking necessary changes to Medicaid programs so everyone in their states can benefit.

    Is the ACA perfect? No. Did Oregon get ripped off big-time by Oracle? Probably. Is everything being blown way out of proportion by people who simply dislike that America has a president who focused on a domestic policy issue and did what 43 other presidents either did not our could not do? Definitely.

    Edit/add: It's amazing how the trolling continues by adding tags about abortion. This discussion has nothing to do with abortion; those who disagree should instead be happy they live in a country that gives them the right to practice the religion of their choice, however they should realize this does not mean everyone agrees with them.

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 10:37 AM #
  4. NoParty
    Member

    It's a law and laws need to be tweaked. How many times has the Constitution been amended?

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 12:01 PM #
  5. RadioBuggie
    Member

    Well there are 27 Amendments, which means that the Constitution has been amended 17 times
    because the first 10 Amendments were the Bill of Rights, or original Constitutional Amendments...

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 12:29 PM #
  6. NoParty
    Member

    So there is room in a LAW to change things up. The Dems and Obummer have said from the BEGINNING that the AHCA can and will be changed. It's NOT perfect but better than the garbage we had before with Insurance companies purposely making their coverage too expensive for most Americans.

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 12:36 PM #
  7. Andrew
    Member

    No problem: states will just have to setup their own exchanges (so Oregon again) - just more tax money spent because we will need 50 separate exchanges. I'm sure Republicans will be happy about the extra government spending. The law itself sure as hell isn't going away.

    In truth, this will probably be reversed on appeal. The idea is that the Congress's intent was for the feds to pay subsidies whether the state sets up its own exchange or not.

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 01:22 PM #
  8. HD
    Member

    How fitting that Barrycare is now in a death spiral. The irony. Legalese creating death panels is perishing from legal death panels:

    Halbig is the latest in a series of warnings from federal judges that in America, the rule of law is king, not Mr. Obama.

    Judge Thomas B. Griffith, writing for the majority, declared: "The Constitution assigns the legislative power to Congress, and to Congress alone."

    No more governing by fiat, Mr. President.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/22/obamacare-in-death-spiral-after-federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-some/

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 04:20 PM #
  9. duxrule
    Member

    It is to laugh, Herb...You know what happens next? Not elimination, but a rules re-write. The ACA is now the law of the land. New Federal rules will be developed and issued to comply with the court ruling. It's done all of the time. Just watch.

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 04:28 PM #
  10. duxrule
    Member

    I wouldn't be quite so quick to declare victory, O'Haters. How come none of you mentioned this case, which upholds the subsidies in their entirety:

    http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Published/141158.P.pdf

    They're also asking that this 3-judge ruling now be reviewed by the entire 11-member DC Court of Appeals.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/22/federal-appeals-court-invalidates-some-obamacare-subsidies-in-blow-to-health/

    This game is far from over.

    Posted on July 22, 2014 - 04:46 PM #