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  1. HD

    "At a convention in Los Angeles on Wednesday, the labor organization the AFL-CIO passed a resolution declaring that the Affordable Care Act will drive up costs of union-sponsored health plans to the point that workers and employers are forced to abandon them.

    While the resolution is strongly worded -- it calls implementation of Obamacare "highly disruptive" to union health care plans -- some unions wanted to take the resolution even further. A draft originally offered by Sean McGarvey, head of the AFL-CIO's Building and Construction Trades Department, said the AFL-CIO could no longer support the health care law and called for its repeal unless changes were made to protect union multi-employer plans."

    When the left loses big labor, it's in trouble.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 08:39 AM #
  2. kennewickman

    Yeah...Super Cadillac health plans...many have 100 % covered Premiums for dependents and Spousal coverages....and NO or very low deductibles...

    However, Im in a Wa. State Public sector Union and my offered ins. is NOT 100 %, not even close...and I got dont paint all of us with the same brush please..

    These *super plans* are now and will increase in cost to the employers to the point that nothing even the powerful Union Bosses can do about it. They will be degraded ...without a doubt now. They can start living like the rest of us, I guess..tough ! But they will still retain premium coverage W.R.T. to the private sector offerings..Smae thing is happening in the Federal Govt Employees ( non Union) ..pools as well..including Congress...which have locked in lifetime Premium Healthcare benefits at taxpayers this all goes beyond many of the Union based provided plans.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 08:49 AM #
  3. duxrule

    Do we see the unions lining up behind the GOP/TeaBaggers? Don't think so. It's a bit of a premature ejaculation to say that "the left has lost big labor." Clean up your mess.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:07 AM #
  4. Deane Johnson

    So duxrule, what you're saying is that the unions are sort of left out in the cold with nobody on their side.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:12 AM #
  5. duxrule

    No, what I'm saying that that you RWNJ's are blowing this completely out of proportion. If you don't think that organizations like the AFL-CIO are anything but solidly Democrat, you've got another think coming. You guys still need to clean up all that spooge.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:16 AM #
  6. missing_kskd

    No. Unions wanted to keep their high end plans and the right didn't want the ACA at all. It was decided to put an excise tax on these plans.

    And that move is all politics. Generally speaking, the ACA is a good thing and the politis of that do not favor the GOP. Many limits and options ended up in the law to dilute it and blunt it's political value. This is one of those things.

    On the other hand Bernie Sanders realised these politics and got the State option to build their own exchanges and the exception for Red States who don't want anything to do with it.

    Bernie was hammered on for helping to take the Public Option off the table, but now people are seeing what he saw. That is the stark difference in benefit depending on whether or not your state is willing to use your health to play politics.

    Big labor took a hit, but they also know the real discussion is just beginning. As the exchanges come on line and people get covered, the idea of health care will take on a new light. The Red States will make the case for better plans through their unwillingness to get on board. Ugly ststistics coming up in these next few years.

    Big labor can afford that hit and they know the real prize remains with the Democrats.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:24 AM #
  7. Andrew

    I don't understand. If the Obama Administration is so left-left-left wing, wouldn't the labor unions have been #1 priority?

    Or could it be - maybe - that you guys who think Obama is a socialist are just totally full of shit?

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:40 AM #
  8. missing_kskd



    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:53 AM #
  9. Andrew

    You can't make this stuff up!

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 09:55 AM #
  10. missing_kskd

    No way, no how. All original, every single day too. Amazing. Really.

    Posted on September 12, 2013 - 10:30 AM #