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How the gun manufacturers control the press

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  • Started 6 years ago by Andy_brown
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  1. Vitalogy
    Member

    That article points out just how fearful and stupid the gun culture is. They are fed lies, and the result of those lies means more profit for the gun lobby and gun manufactures. It's kind of like having a magazine promoting that cigarettes are not harmful, owned by the cigarette manufacturers.

    As for Candada, whatever they are doing, the US should follow suit:

    Canada: 2.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people.
    US: 10.3 gund deaths per 100,000 people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Why the difference?

    Posted on January 6, 2014 - 11:59 AM #
  2. Andy_brown
    Member

    No, Vitalogy, what the article points out is just how fearful and corrupt the advertising business is. This type of thing goes on across the board. From Car and Driver to Better Homes and Gardens. You won't see a bad review of much unless you read Consumer Reports, and unfortunately they are slanted way in the other direction, cutting down products by emphasizing their lack of perfection or focusing on petty defects that no one cares about.

    The "gun culture" are the victims of those that manufacture their hobby toys who don't want negative press in those periodicals in which they advertise.

    I appreciate your stand against firearm violence, but that's America. Let's be sure and go after the real problems and not lay the blame on citizens whom abide by the law.

    Posted on January 6, 2014 - 01:30 PM #
  3. Skybill9
    Member

    "Let's be sure and go after the real problems and not lay the blame on citizens whom abide by the law."

    Thank you Andy!

    However those words will go in one ear and out the other (because there is nothing in the middle to stop them) to our resident gun hater who thinks everybody who owns a gun wants to go out and commit mass murder.

    "I appreciate your stand against firearm violence,"

    I think if you ask any lawful gun owner you'll find 100% of them are against gun violence.

    Posted on January 6, 2014 - 09:11 PM #
  4. skeptical
    Member

    then how come all 100% of them can't make this problem go away.

    Posted on January 6, 2014 - 10:27 PM #
  5. missing_kskd
    Member

    Seems to me, they are against gun violence, until they aren't and become former law abiding gun owners.

    And there is the problem right there. At any given time, we've got some percentage of unstable, sick, nutty, angry, people with guns.

    Posted on January 7, 2014 - 02:12 AM #
  6. Vitalogy
    Member

    "No, Vitalogy, what the article points out is just how fearful and corrupt the advertising business is."

    So you're blaming the advertising business and not the gun lobby and manufacturers? Seems to me the advertising business is the one getting manipulated, and I choose to see the problem as the people doing the manipulating.

    Posted on January 7, 2014 - 01:08 PM #
  7. Andy_brown
    Member

    "So you're blaming the advertising business and not the gun lobby and manufacturers?"

    Yes, the blame for not allowing their own advocates to exercise free speech falls squarely on the shoulders of the Guns and Ammo publishers. They are like the GOP, wishing to keep their constituency in the dark at all times about changing times. Anything that would hurt the profit margins of the manufacturers would penultimately hurt the magazine ad revenue, so they fired a pro gun columnist who was trying to present the whole picture. Truly sad and clearly hypocritical to their argument about constitutional rights.

    As far as the blame for the violence in general, as much as you would like to lay all that on the gun manufacturers, they are not the culprits. The problem is ineffective government. Not every disaster is preventable, but too frequently the access to firearms by those unqualified is the reason. Crazy people are not necessarily criminals before the fact. We could fix that. We can't fix bad parenting nor outright criminal activity.

    Like I said, if you really want to solve this problem, you have to identify the real roots of it and the base cause is the access to firearms, not ownership of or legal use of.

    The U.S.A. is a gun culture. Since the days of muskets and six shooters. We fought a revolution to gain independence and fought a bloody civil war over slavery, or the failure of 7 southern states to understand that culture was changing and all men should be treated equal. Its taken another 150 years just to get close to a society that practices what it preaches, and we're not there yet.

    Unfortunately, the gun lobby is paranoid that all their rights to ownership will be taken away and vociferously (love that word) fights everything their opponents try to implement that might help. I blame the gun manufacturers and lobbies of being capitalistic asses with no concern for the human condition, but they portray themselves as protecting the constitutional rights of their customers when what they are really doing is preserving their profit margins by controlling the press through economic pressure where they can.

    Posted on January 7, 2014 - 02:50 PM #