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GOP Scrambles to Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race

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  • Started 5 years ago by Vitalogy
  • Latest reply from kennewickman

  1. Vitalogy


    Offering words of encouragement for a rancher leading an armed standoff against federal rangers turns out to be not so great of a political move – especially when the rancher in question muses publicly about the benefits of slavery.

    Republicans – including possible 2016 candidate Rand Paul -- are scrambling to distance themselves from defiant Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy after he made startling comments about slavery and African-Americans in a New York Times article published Wednesday night.

    From the Times’ Adam Nagourney:

    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 10:49 AM #
  2. Amus

    The topic should read;

    "GOP Scrambles to publicly Condemn Rancher's Remarks on Race"

    You know they feel the same way, they just can't say it out loud.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 11:05 AM #
  3. kennewickman
    Member one in their right friggin' minds...( even otherwise cooky people) would ever endorse slavery-racial overtones regarding African Americans etc.. in any fashion !! GOP-Tea Party , Dem, Independent...

    Maybe KKK or some other fringe White supremacist group...whatever..

    I have always thought this guy Bundy had a dead short between his ears anyway !! Not a legal leg to stand on and had an extremists view of what government was or should be etc... and also that FOX News, especially Hannity was taking big chances stoking the fires on this BLM/Range war/Cattle running issue in Nevada.... ostensibly supporting Bundy in all this...

    And I said so in a previous string several weeks ago..

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 11:18 AM #
  4. Amus

    " one in their right friggin' minds...( even otherwise cooky people) would ever endorse slavery-racial overtones regarding African Americans etc.. in any fashion !! GOP-Tea Party , Dem, Independent..."

    You haven't spent much time in the South have you?

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 11:28 AM #
  5. Amus

    OH! I take that back...

    You said no one in their right minds..

    That actually seems self evident...but it leaves out the New Confederacy.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 11:34 AM #
  6. missing_kskd

    You can bet your guns they would not distance themselves from this if the optics were not so painful.

    Lefties distance themselves from theses issues because they don't see basic justice in them, not because the optics are bad.

    Big difference, and just as Amus says, clearly and easily seen in the south.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 11:45 AM #
  7. edselehr

    Republicans don't know how to recant anything...I'm betting we'll see a lot of them "doubling down" on their support for Bundy instead.

    Neo-conservative publicity tactic #404: When stuck in a deep hole, dig faster.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 12:04 PM #
  8. Amus


    neo-Confederates usually advocate a free market economy which engages in significantly less taxation than currently found in the United States, and which does not revolve around fiat currencies such as the United States Dollar.

    many neo-Confederates are openly critical of the presidency of Abraham Lincoln to varied degrees, and of the history of Reconstruction. Various authors have written critiques of Lincoln and the Union. Slavery is almost never defended, but it is usually denied as a primary cause of the American Civil War. Critics often accuse Neo-Confederates of "revisionism" and of acting as "apologists"

    The Civil Rights Movement
    Historian Nancy MacLean states that Neo-Confederates used the history of the Confederacy to justify their opposition to the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s and 1960s.[4] Historian David Blight writes that current neo-Confederates are "driven largely by the desire of current white supremacists to re-legitimize the Confederacy, while they tacitly reject the victories of the modern civil rights movement".

    Black Confederates
    The book The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader notes that toward the end of the Twentieth Century, in order to support the idea that the Civil War was not about slavery, Neo-Confederates began to claim that “thousands of African Americans had served in the Confederate army.” A Neo-Confederate publication, Confederate Veteran, said in 1992 that “the overwhelming majority of blacks during the War Between the States supported and defended, with armed resistance, the Cause of Southern Independence.
    Historian Bruce Levine says that "their ["neo-Confederates"] insistent celebration these days of 'Black Confederates' ... seeks to legitimate that claim" that the war had never been fought on behalf of slavery; loyalty to the South, southern self-government, southern culture, or states rights -- rather than to slavery and white supremacy -- fueled the southern war effort."

    Many neo-Confederates promote an unabashed Christian culture. They support, for example, public displays of Christianity, such as "Ten Commandments" monuments and displays of the Christian cross.
    Almost all Neo-Confederates strongly support the right to keep and bear arms, present in both the United States Constitution and the Confederate States Constitution. Generally they oppose unmitigated illegal immigration of foreign nationals into Southern states.
    Some Neo-Confederates view the Civil War as a conflict between a secular North and a Christian South.[10] Certain Neo-Confederates believe in an Anglo-Celtic identity theory for residents of the South.

    Many neo-Confederates openly advocate the resecession of the Southern states and territories which comprised the old Confederate States of America. The League of the South, for example, promotes the "independence of the Southern people" from the "American empire".

    (I say let them! We'd just be trading one 3rd world country on our southern border for another, slightly more corrupt one)

    Most neo-Confederate groups do not seek violent revolution, but rather an orderly separation, such as was done in the division of Czechoslovakia.[12] With Constitution Act 542, passed on 25 November, they agreed to the dissolution of Czechoslovakia as of 31 December 1992.
    Many Neo-Confederate groups have prepared for what they view as a possible collapse of the federal United States into its 50 separate states, much like the Soviet Union collapsed, and believe the Confederacy can be resurrected at that time.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 12:12 PM #
  9. Deane Johnson

    What an old Nevada rancher says has nothing to do with the GOP. You guys get an erection over the damndest things.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 12:44 PM #
  10. Amus

    Deane on 4/23/2014:
    You may have missed my pronouncement in the past, but I have stated that I have no intention of any further concern for political correctness. I'll post it like I see it."

    It seems to me this old Nevada rancher is your kind of guy.

    Posted on April 24, 2014 - 12:53 PM #