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  • Started 6 years ago by LurkingGrendel
  • Latest reply from Mrs.Merkin

  1. LurkingGrendel
    Member

    Here’s the quandary: You’re on board a jet aircraft at altitude and smoke begins to drift throughout the cabin. What can be done? This very situation faced Anne Romney, wife and tone deaf plutocratic mate of GOP Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney.

    Mittens would like to be the President of the United States. Surely he would know how to handle this crisis? Let’s see what he had to say:

    “I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”

    Oh, I agree. I for one would occasionally like some fresh air when cruising at 35,000 feet. That recycled air can become a bit stale and lack refreshment. What could go wrong? I don’t know why “they” do that, either. Indeed Governor Romney, it is a real problem. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

    What’s that you say? What is this “cabin pressure” you speak of?

    Excuse me? You can’t breathe several miles above the service of the Earth? Hogwash, good sir! Air is air, isn’t it?

    I beg your pardon? Sliding open a window at 500 mph and feeding a cyclone of oxygen directly into an open flame might be unwise? You’re speaking crazy talk.

    Next week join us when we ask Governor Romney to explain why it is that water boils when an open flame is applied at sufficient temperature and duration. Spoiler: God willed it.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 10:52 AM #
  2. Skybill9
    Member

    WOW. You're really reaching aren't you.

    What was that Obobo said about the number of states? Or about his comments last night on 60 Minutes that the trouble in the Middle East is just "bumps in the road". Tell that to the families of those killed in the attacks. I think he must have taken a bump to the head.

    I’m not aware of any system that exists in current aircraft, but why couldn't they have some type of system so that if they descend to below 12,000' (IIRC that is the altitude that pilots are required to be on oxygen in an unpressurized aircraft) that they couldn't vent some outside air in?

    Obviously you can't open a window but there could be other ways to accomplish it.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 12:13 PM #
  3. kennewickman
    Member

    Some people talk to the lowest common denominator when speaking publically. This may be the case here...by mentioning " I dont know why they cant open up the air to the outside somehow etc ."" It might be how you would explain this to a 14 year old .

    See the link below..because that is essentially what they do, open up the air to the outside..especially below 8000 feet. With engine recirculation. Actually it happens even at 35,000 feet but just not very much ( and that is a good thing) ...the trick is really to go into an emergency descent in this kind of situation , which is what they did I'll bet. Get below 12,000 fast...better yet ..to about 6000 feet and obtain a thick mix of outside air recirculation pumped through the engines...it is still low humidity...but fresh air nevetheless.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/how_does_fresh_air_get_into_an_airplane

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 01:02 PM #
  4. motozak3
    Member

    The "service" of the Earth?

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 01:57 PM #
  5. Amus
    Member

    "Some people talk to the lowest common denominator when speaking publically."

    AKA "The Base"

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 02:00 PM #
  6. LurkingGrendel
    Member

    Not reaching. Laughing.

    And that's a Romney/GOP talking point you're referencing, Sky. It's a few hours old and no-one outside of your bubble believes it means anything as it’s clearly unrepresentative of policy or action.

    I believe the WH press secretary calmly summed it up, best: “I understand that Republicans in this case are searching for reeds to grab on to, but I think the president’s views on these matters are very clear and very strong.”

    He thinks correctly. Polling backs his thoughts up. President Obama hands down wins the foreign policy arguments. But I’m totally ok with The Romney campaign trying to change water into wine this close the election. Have at it.

    I enjoyed Mitten’s answer to what, exactly, millions of Americans are supposed to do for health care coverage if he were successful in repealing The Affordable Care Act: The emergency room. Wow, that’s brilliant, Mitt. I mean it’s exactly at odds with your own very public and very specific policy statements and actions over most of your political career that you’ve only recently flip flopped on due to issues with keeping the moronic base of the party in line, but it’s still kind of amazing you went there.

    It’s irrelevant as he’s not going to win this election, but still. I look forward to hearing The President calmly shredding him with great specificity during the debates. Hey, look! I gave you another reed to cling to.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 02:02 PM #
  7. Alfredo_T
    Member

    I think that Al (kennewickman) has it right. To me, it does not fit that somebody who has achieved the level of affluence of Mitt Romney could have such a lack of sophistication as to really be baffled by the notion that windows on jet aircraft cannot be opened. Neither do I believe that the donors who attended his $50,000-a-plate fundraiser could be that ignorant. According to The Washington Post, however, he made this remark at a fundraiser, and I find that difficult to understand. Why would a political candidate want to risk alienating potential donors with insulting remarks like this?

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 05:11 PM #
  8. LurkingGrendel
    Member

    He was born on third base; if not for his swaddling clothes creating drag he might have slid across home. He's been extraordinarily privileged his entire life. His life experiences are as remote from those of the average American as that of an alien life form encountering a housecat. I find it not at all odd he may have a less than perfect understanding of innumerable bits of everyday trivial arcana.

    His private Lear probably has voice activated retractable windows.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 05:17 PM #
  9. Skybill9
    Member

    "He's been extraordinarily privileged his entire life."

    So have lots of people. NBD.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 06:02 PM #
  10. LurkingGrendel
    Member

    Yup, he's totally typical and totally relatable. That's why people like him so much. Thanks for clearing that up.

    If you'll excuse me I need to check on my dressage horse and then instruct the help to oil the mechanical workings of my car's elevators.

    Posted on September 24, 2012 - 08:32 PM #