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  1. Andy_brown
    Member

    Is it any wonder this happened in Florida?

    You'd think she look first, but when paranoia sets in all logic is out the window.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/?p=647505

    Posted on August 19, 2014 - 04:24 PM #
  2. Vitalogy
    Member

    Sounds like a real winner of a family. Typical gun owners. Prop the chair against the door for extra security??

    Hopefully she her right to own a gun is taken away and she does some time for being such an idiot.

    Posted on August 19, 2014 - 06:14 PM #
  3. skeptical
    Member

    Again, a gun is multifold (20x) more likely to kill the owner, his/her family and friends than used in self defense.

    We're long over due for a gun death that saves the life of the gun owner. Maybe this year?

    Posted on August 19, 2014 - 09:29 PM #
  4. jerry1949
    Member

    How many murders and robberies don't happen because the would-be theif or murderer knows or thinks there is a gun on the other side of the door? I have some Mexican friends who say their old home town in Mexico is unsafe at night. Bullies have taken over the streets. They've been emboldened because nobody there has guns anymore. The government confiscated them.

    Posted on August 21, 2014 - 08:54 AM #
  5. Alfredo_T
    Member

    Here is a story with more information:

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/tampa-grandmother-mistakes-grandson-7-for-intruder-shoots-him-deputies-say/2193576

    This story answers some of the questions that I had. Did this take place in a neighborhood with gang activity? (NO) Did this take place in a high crime area? (NO) Had Maddox recently been the victim of a crime? (UNCERTAIN)

    I don't see why this is a "Florida" thing. Maddox had called 911 a number of times in the last three years to report various suspicious goings-on in her neighborhood. However, none of the calls resulted in any arrests. The way I see it, Maddox decided to take matters into her own hands, but she was not the best planner (to put it politely). This all culminated with her literally firing a shot in the dark.

    Posted on August 21, 2014 - 11:47 AM #
  6. skeptical
    Member

    "Maddox decided to take matters into her own hands"

    She was itching for a chance to use her gun.

    Posted on August 21, 2014 - 08:14 PM #
  7. missing_kskd
    Member

    This is a case where we could do some good.

    Flat out, this woman got too scared to deal rationally. A gun is an offensive thing. There is some basic intimidation involved with the knowing it's there, etc... but the real potency is in the offensive nature.

    Scared people need to not be scared, feel safe and have some reasonable expectation of safety, not just an illusion of it.

    Adding a dog to this mix, for example, would have done wonders. Making some mental health available would help too. Her experiences with the foster teens may well have contributed to fear. Those kids are often not easy, and they frequently bring trouble as well as create it. (I know this from personal experiences as an adoptive foster parent)

    In addition to the dog, there is a lot of home / neighborhood safety / security options which could have helped, and still can.

    Better lighting.

    Overall neighborhood presentation. If it looks the easy mark, it simply is, guns or no. Clean up, signage, and other "go away" type things don't cost much and are really effective.

    Dogs.

    Watch program, though we know those can go bad, depending.

    Improved police presence. Some participation could do wonders here too, and that could be in the form of advice / consulting to improve risk / reward and contribute very significantly to the feeling and reality of improved safety, which helps with fear and preserves rationality.

    Education. There is a lot of ignorance out there regarding basic home security issues.

    IMHO, these kinds of cases would benefit from some dollars. Perhaps dealing with gun issues involves identifying things like this and taking and paying for steps to remedy them, or at the least, improve things and empower people to make much better choices.

    Defensive options that bend the risk / reward curve away from various property / people crimes are broad based, easy to maintain, and directly impact gun violence in a favorable way. No brainer.

    Posted on August 21, 2014 - 11:21 PM #