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  1. HD
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  2. Andy_brown
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    100% regret reading your posts.

    http://www.herbonmeth.net/topic/abortion/herb_is_pro_control_not_pro_life.html

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 01:12 PM #
  3. Broadway
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    >>unwanted pregnancy IS taking responsibility
    You gotta be kidding...you really don't get it. An infatuation with death...no wonder life is getting more worthless.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:03 PM #
  4. Andrew
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    Broadway: >>unwanted pregnancy IS taking responsibility
    You gotta be kidding...you really don't get it. An infatuation with death...no wonder life is getting more worthless.

    No, not kidding. I have an infatuation with freedom; you seem to have an infatuation with controlling women.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:05 PM #
  5. Andrew
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    Herb: 94% regret their abortion.

    Actually, I hear it was really more on the order of 104% regretting their abortion. They just did a new survey.

    I'm sure some women do wind up regretting their abortions, just like some people wind up regretting almost everything. According to my own survey of women I've know who have had abortions, 0% regret their abortion. One of my friends is now happily married with two kids; had she not had an abortion when she was young, unmarried, and unready for motherhood, THOSE TWO KIDS WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. They probably don't regret their mother's early abortion, either. Maybe one of them will go on to cure cancer someday...

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:11 PM #
  6. jerry1949
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    Of the approximately 10 women I know or met who had an abortion, all have regretted it.

    I have, however, met a couple who met in a support group for widows and widowers. Their former spouses and four children were bludgeoned to death, and their common sorrow brought them together. They eventually married and had two children between them, and these children are of course delighted that their half-siblings and parents' ex-spouses were murdered, because if that had not happened, THOSE TWO KIDS WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. :roll:

    What I find disturbing about this thread is that there is absolutely no discussion or mention of the victim or perceived victim of the abortion.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:33 PM #
  7. Skybill9
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    Welcome aboard Jerry!

    You'll find that the lefties will never discuss that about abortion.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:37 PM #
  8. Vitalogy
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    What I find disturbing is people nosing into other people's healthcare decisions. It's none of your fucking business.

    That's the beauty of choice. Have one if you want, don't have one if you don't want one. Pretty simple math.

    I know several women myself who have had abortions. 0% rate of regret!

    As for the victim, the only victim is the woman being denied her own right to manage her body.

    No one would give a shit about abortion if it was the other way around and it were men who had to deal with these situations. The right for a man's abortion would be fought for as hard has gun rights are. Tooth and nail.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:45 PM #
  9. Andrew
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    jerry1949: Of the approximately 10 women I know or met who had an abortion, all have regretted it.

    OK - so in my personal survey, 0% regretted it and in yours, 100% regretted it.

    I have, however, met a couple who met in a support group for widows and widowers. Their former spouses and four children were bludgeoned to death, and their common sorrow brought them together. They eventually married and had two children between them, and these children are of course delighted that their half-siblings and parents' ex-spouses were murdered, because if that had not happened, THOSE TWO KIDS WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. :roll:

    If their half-siblings and step-parents were murdered, I hope they find the killers! The murder of human beings is illegal in most of the 50 states as I recall.

    What I find disturbing about this thread is that there is absolutely no discussion or mention of the victim or perceived victim of the abortion.

    Could it be that many of us don't see an aborted embryo or fetus as a "victim?"

    How about the real human victims of rape and incest? Do you want to talk about them and how radical conservatives across America want to make it illegal again for them not to carry their attacker's baby into this world?

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:45 PM #
  10. missing_kskd
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    That is exactly what those of us see.

    At one end, it is a few cells. Not a victim at all. Mom could get sick, stumble and fall, or it could be something like a tube pregnancy, which will kill her if not aborted.

    At the other end, it's born and we have a person.

    Somewhere in there is viability.

    Not viable generally isn't a victim, viable increasingly is.

    I think anybody wanting to say they have the answers and clearly want to call the shots can answer the question:

    9 year old girl, raped and pregnant by her father doesn't want to continue. What do you say to her?

    (real scenario, BTW played out in Brazil)

    Who is the victim there, and what outcome do you see as just and how do you say it to the little girl?

    Go ahead. Sort that out for us.

    Posted on July 8, 2014 - 02:52 PM #