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  1. Vitalogy

    An evangelical Christian group is trying to convert children as young as five at Portland apartment pools, public parks and dozens of other gathering spots this summer — a campaign that's got hundreds of parents upset.

    They've banded together in recent weeks to warn parents about the Child Evangelism Fellowship's Good News Club, buying a full-page ad in the local alternative weekly to highlight the group's tactics.

    "They pretend to be a mainstream Christian Bible study when in fact they're a very old school fundamentalist sect," said Kaye Schmitt, an organizer with Protect Portland Children, which takes issue with the group's message and the way it's delivering it.

    "Parents should know that out-of-state evangelical fundamentalists are in the Portland area this week, trying to convert children as young as five-years-old, using misleading tactics," said Stacey Jochimsen, another Protect Portland Children member.

    A press release from the same opposition group, sent to the On Your Side Investigators Wednesday, said the Good News Club curriculum is "not the Jesus-loves-you mainstream Christianity that parents might expect."

    They stated, the "curriculum teaches young children that they're born sinners, bound for eternity in hell unless they obey the club's teachings."

    They also said, "the curriculum contains over 5,000 references to sin, 1000 references to hell and punishment, 1000 references to obedience, and only one reference to the golden rule."

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 10:41 AM #
  2. Broadway

    >>Child Evangelism Fellowship's Good News Club
    Good grief, this ministry group is just about as harmless as any Grandma.
    They have local chapters/reps in most cities all over the US.
    Slow news day...

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 12:13 PM #
  3. Vitalogy

    People like this are far from harmless. I consider them dangerous.

    It's borderline child abuse if you ask me.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 12:23 PM #
  4. Amus

    They may seem harmless to you since you agree with their ministry, but let me ask you;

    Do you think they should be proselytising to young children without parental permission?

    Would you have a problem if someone were to approach the same children with information about birth control without parental permission?

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 12:37 PM #
  5. Broadway

    All events that CEF does has parental ok/involvement. Comments about birth control just muddies-up the discussion and has no bearing.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 12:57 PM #
  6. Andy_brown

    "Events" is not the same as dialogue, Broadway.

    I agree that this is dangerous to youth to have this kind of indoctrination and filtered assessment of the world and slanted interpretation of our world.

    The last thing the world needs is more little robots unable to think for themselves.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 01:03 PM #
  7. Broadway

    >>slanted interpretation of our world
    Well, either yours or ours...we live in America.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 01:46 PM #
  8. Amus

    I have a bit of experience with something like this.

    When my son was young, a friend of his invited him to go to church with him.
    We agreed and let him go.
    We went to a different church, but thought there was nothing wrong gaining a little more knowledge about other peoples beliefs.

    Once there they segregated him and took him to a room where they started in on him about hell and the rapture, etc.

    My son who's always been a very sensitive soul internalized it.

    After a few days when we noticed he wasn't acting right we got him to tell us about it. It was quite a scene as we tried to calm him down.

    Now that he's grown, he's a happily adjusted, committed Atheist.
    I call him the most spiritual Atheist I know.

    Honestly, I wouldn't be happy if someone started talking birth control to my child, but this REALLY pissed me off.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 01:49 PM #
  9. missing_kskd

    A similar intervention happened to me as a kid. Let's just say it id not go well.

    I have a big problem with this: "Either your or ours"

    How about theirs?

    I do call it child abuse when strong attemps are made to lock kids in befor they mature.

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 01:53 PM #
  10. jr_tech

    How old is the Earth, Broadway?

    Posted on July 24, 2014 - 01:54 PM #