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  1. duxrule
    Member

    It's probably related to this story out of NC:

    North Carolina voters report voting machines switching their votes to GOP candidate

    A voter in Guilfrord County, attempting to take advantage of early voting in North Carolina, told the News-Record that the voting machine he used repeatedly switched his vote for a Democrat to a vote for her Republican opponent.

    Percy Bostick, 69, of Greensboro said he tried casting a vote for Democrat Kay Hagan — who is locked in a tight battle with her GOP opponent — however the machine, located in the Old Guilford County Courthouse — assigned his vote to Republican Thom Tillis.

    “I called one of the poll workers over,” Bostick explained. “She said do it again. And again, I touched the screen at the proper place for Kay Hagan, and it again reported it for Thom Tillis.”
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/north-carolina-voters-report-voting-machines-switching-their-votes-to-gop-candidate/

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 03:40 PM #
  2. stevethedj
    Member

    If they are not citizens, they don't have a right to vote.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 05:30 PM #
  3. edselehr
    Member

    Wisdom® by stevethedj

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 05:40 PM #
  4. Vitalogy
    Member

    Does anybody really think an illegal immigrant would try to register to vote? I think the actual numbers of "non-citizens" voting is a very small amount.

    Personally, I'm more concerned with voter suppression. As we've seen, it's become harder to vote (or more of a pain in the ass) in a lot of places.

    I believe OR had 70% of voters participate in a non-presidential election. Mail in voting is the reason why we have such good participation.

    Voting booths should go the way of phone booths.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 06:55 PM #
  5. missing_kskd
    Member

    The discussion needs to be how we get turnout up and how we make sure everyone who is eligible to vote can do so as easily as is possible.

    Oregon leads in both these metrics.

    Most of the States passing voting legislation are failing at both metrics.

    How can we improve that?

    We need to improve it so we aren't troubled by near constant claims of foul play in elections. These claims have risen sharply with the advent of dubious, and in most cases demonstrably untrustworthy technology introduced around 2000.

    As the new law plays put, and general failure at the two metrics continues, that will only add to the claims, further damaging our politics.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 07:15 PM #
  6. Vitalogy
    Member

    I can complete banking transactions on my iPhone. Why not voting?

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 07:40 PM #
  7. missing_kskd
    Member

    It is the anonymonity requirement. Having that means the voter trust problem is either unsolvable, or extremely difficult to solve.

    If we link votes to voters, we could more easily vote electronically.

    The problem comes down to failure to record voter intent directly. A voter doesn't know what their vote actually was, even when the machine displays it.

    Those machines having paper rolls of votes are a little better, but the paper rolls aren't used but for special cases.

    Personally, I just want the voters able to vote and their vote to be trustworthy and resolvabale in a court of law so we can eliminate most of these election claims.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 08:52 PM #
  8. duxrule
    Member

    Once again, Jon Stewart NAILS it. When are the Democrats going to play the game like it should be played?

    Jon Stewart describes Democratic Party’s midterm strategy as ‘D*ckless H. Chickensh*t’
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/jon-stewart-describes-democratic-partys-midterm-strategy-as-dckless-h-chickensht/#.VFzO_CZPI3s.facebook

    Posted on November 7, 2014 - 07:04 AM #
  9. missing_kskd
    Member

    He's right about that.

    When you look at who lost in the Democratic party, it's obvious.

    Lefties need to put the leftie, populist, goodness out there raw, unabashed, and frequent.

    People will vote when they see something that aligns with their best interests.

    We didn't do that, people didn't vote, and we lost. It's that simple.

    Posted on November 7, 2014 - 10:35 AM #
  10. PianoMan
    Member

    Well, not quite that simple, but certainly it's disappointing (not to mention disgusting) to see so many Democrats who ought to have known better running as Republican Lite. I thought the lesson finally had sunk in over the past decade that, contrary to the elite media, there is no "center" in modern U.S. politics, no one lives there and you thus have no constituency if you try to position yourself there. You're almost always much better off running as a partisan progressive populist even in a "red" state like Kentucky. Ordinary people everywhere LIKE the progressive Democratic agenda, for the most part -- look at the nationwide results of state and local ballot measures. With a few scattered exceptions, the "liberal" side just about ran the table on those. The voters who did that, while also voting largely for Republican candidates, could have been reached with a strong, clearly messaged campaign that tied those ballot issues to the Democrats on the same ballot. What the hell were those candidates (and their consultants) thinking?

    Posted on November 8, 2014 - 03:05 AM #