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  1. jerry1949
    Member

    Every (new) winning republican senator campaigned to repeal Obamacare.

    Posted on November 5, 2014 - 10:26 PM #
  2. Notalent
    Member

    Most people (other than extremists) prefer a divided government.

    Divided government is healthy. It keeps the extremist from both sides from gaining too much ground.

    Posted on November 5, 2014 - 10:27 PM #
  3. NoParty
    Member

    When we can get the uber Libs and extremist rightist (Teabaggers) out that will be nice. With too many from both sides you get only ONE agenda. NOT good!

    Posted on November 5, 2014 - 11:20 PM #
  4. duxrule
    Member

    "Every (new) winning republican senator campaigned to repeal Obamacare."

    So what?

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 06:53 AM #
  5. duxrule
    Member

    From former Labor Secretary Robert Reich:

    "Voter suppression watch: In the North Carolina Senate race, Thom Tillis beat Senator Kay Hagen by 48,000 votes. North Carolina’s voters were, for the first time, voting under one of the harshest new election laws in the country — which Tillis helped craft. The Election Protection hotline reported widespread problems with voter registrations and voters being told they were in the wrong precinct. Numbers from recent elections suggest the magnitude of voter suppression is close to 45,000 to 50,000 votes.

    Similarly, in Kansas, Governor Sam Brownback beat back challenger Paul Davis by fewer than 33,000 votes. The Kansas secretary of state says more than 24,000 Kansans tried to register this year but their registrations were held in “suspense” because they failed to present the documentary proof of citizenship now required by state law. And the Government Accountability Office found that Kansas’s voter ID law reduced turnout by 17,000 voters in 2012. You do the math."

    Didn't some on here say that the Voter ID laws wouldn't keep American citizens from being able to exercise their Constitutional right?

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 01:22 PM #
  6. PianoMan
    Member

    That's why I don't think those latter-day Jim Crow laws are going to survive for very long, no matter what the courts say. When you have disfranchisement rates in five figures that's an awful lot of potential litigation and political liability. It may take another election cycle or two, but Republicans will eventually be forced to abandon this anti-American and ultimately counterproductive strategy.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 01:49 PM #
  7. jerry1949
    Member

    What recent elections is Reich comparing NC 2014 to? Does he provide any stats or any proof of his assertion?

    Otherwise, it just looks like sour grapes.

    Besides that, turnout fluctuates every year. It would be impossible to prove anything by comparing total vote counts.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 02:27 PM #
  8. Notalent
    Member

    So the amount of people unable to prove they are citizens sound about the same as the amount of non citizens who actually did vote according to the recent WashPost story posted elsewhere here.

    Sounds like a wash.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 02:50 PM #
  9. jerry1949
    Member

    Total NC vote counts national elections:

    2010: 2,671,667
    2012: 4,499,011
    2014: 2,886,610

    So from where does Mr. Reich pull out his 45,000 to 50,000 estimate? (Just a rhetorical question. I already know).

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 03:07 PM #
  10. edselehr
    Member

    F&B, the numbers he cites are probably a comparison of voters prohibited from voting based on the new laws compared to the number of voters prohibited from voting prior to the new laws. Your totals above have nothing to do with that.

    Posted on November 6, 2014 - 03:25 PM #