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  1. HD
    Member

    It’s not just red-state Democrats who want to take aggressive steps to mend controversial provisions in Obamacare.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that she will co-sponsor a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to require insurance companies to continue offering their existing health care plans — a way to make good on President Barack Obama’s promise that consumers can keep their current coverage if they like it.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/dianne-feinstein-joins-push-to-keep-health-plans-99758.html

    Posted on November 12, 2013 - 09:33 PM #
  2. Andrew
    Member

    Sounds like a great way to poison the new health care exchanges so fewer people will sign up - and then the pool of insured will be smaller, rates will have to go up...and you put it into a death spiral.

    I say: let people keep these plans an extra year and delay the mandate penalty for one year. But Republicans don't really want that - because they want to weaken the law and keep millions of people from being insured, and delaying one year wouldn't kill anything. Plus, there's no guarantee insurance companies will still offer the same plans at the same price as now, anyway.

    Posted on November 12, 2013 - 09:50 PM #
  3. HD
    Member

    At this pace, Democrats can't distance themselves from the current administration fast enough:

    Incumbent Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) is near the top of national Republicans’ target list for 2014 — and a new poll shows her lead over her potential GOP challengers has all but evaporated.

    ...the poll also suggests she could be suffering from the implementation of Obamacare: 69 percent of those surveyed said the law’s rollout has been unsuccessful so far, compared with 25 percent who say it’s been a success.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/kay-hagan-senate-poll-99731.html

    Posted on November 12, 2013 - 10:13 PM #
  4. missing_kskd
    Member

    Republicans want failure. Until they decide to want better health care for people and prioritize that over making Obama and Democrats in general fail, there isn't any meaningful discussion with them.

    It isn't wise to compromise with people acting in bad faith.

    As for the bill, it's theater at this point. Making insurers offer specific plans opens up an ugly can of worms with no good ending for anybody, I suspect.

    Posted on November 12, 2013 - 10:15 PM #
  5. HD
    Member

    And I called it before anyone else here:

    "CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash told her network’s anchors on Tuesday that the end of the week is the “de facto deadline” at which point the White House needs to have settled on a series of fixes to address the crisis of Americans losing their health coverage. After Friday, Bash reported, House Democrats are going to be backing GOP proposed fixes to the Affordable Care Act against the wishes of President Barack Obama’s administration.

    “What is clear is that the political pressure and the political desire from Democrats to at least do something is growing by the minute,” Bash reported. “What is going to happen in – this week – on Friday is House Republicans are going to put a piece of legislation on the House floor for a vote that will at least, in some way, shape, or form, suggest that people can keep their health care.”

    “I just talked to a senior congressional Democratic source who said that they believe this is almost a de facto deadline for the White House to come up with a fix,” she continued. “Because, if they don’t, you’re going to see more and more Democrats defy the White House and vote for this Republican bill in the House.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-dana-bash-friday-de-facto-deadline-before-dems-defy-obama-back-gops-obamacare-fixes/

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 08:55 AM #
  6. Vitalogy
    Member

    How's your Medicare working for you Herb?

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 09:00 AM #
  7. missing_kskd
    Member

    He will never answer that. It is icky socialism, some necessary evil he is forced to deal with, or some other such thing. He has the same problem with the little girl question. An answer either reveals he is a zealot, or it reveals the matter is not as black and white as he frames it up to be.

    Neither good.

    This GOP move is simply another lever they are going to try to use to kill the ACA and help Obama fail, and maybe get some talking points for this coming election blood bath in the house.

    No reason to believe the Problem Party really cares about people and their healthcare at this point. There is no compelling change event to excuse away their ugly statements, meaning the hard line base would skewer them for helping to make it work without that event to placate everybody.

    So what they will do is something populist in concept, but in practice is a poison pill of some sort.

    When we see the Problem Party make positive policy statements about making sure people can get healthcare without having to risk everything in their lives, then we can believe their effort here makes some basic sense.

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 09:11 AM #
  8. NoParty
    Member

    Funny how all the radical rightist on here want America to fail while calling out Dems (and anyone else that disagreed with them during their Lord and saviors reign of terror) as UNAmerican and UNPatriotic.

    HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!

    Want America to fail? Well, North Korea likes you and so does Cuba and Al Quda. Move or join....

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 02:39 PM #
  9. HD
    Member

    Trixter, conservatives don't want America to fail.

    We just want something better than what the liar-in-chief has to offer.

    And judging from what's happening, so do many Democrats.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/13/politics/obamacare-democrats/

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 02:46 PM #
  10. duxrule
    Member

    Rather than the blind lockstep that the GOP/TeaBaggers fall into, eh? Why weren't their any Republicans calling Dubya out for the BS line that got us into this generations Vietnam? What's the current penalty for falling out of line with the Teabag/O'Hater line of thought? Oh, yeah...You get primaried by your own party. Nice.

    Posted on November 13, 2013 - 03:06 PM #