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  1. Vitalogy
    Member

    Poster Boy for the NRA?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/13/21896258-colorado-school-gunman-seen-as-bright-and-passionate-about-politics?lite

    "He had very strong beliefs about gun laws and stuff. I also heard he was bullied a lot."

    Posted on December 13, 2013 - 10:33 PM #
  2. Skybill9
    Member

    How's that "Gun Free" zone working out for ya?

    Posted on December 13, 2013 - 10:43 PM #
  3. Vitalogy
    Member

    Where did he get the gun?

    Probably from a former law abiding gun owner.

    The reason why the US has such a problem with gun violence is the availability of guns. Japan doesn't have this issue. Why?

    Posted on December 13, 2013 - 10:57 PM #
  4. Skybill9
    Member

    "Where did he get the gun?"

    Doesn't matter. It's a gun free zone. He can't have a gun there.

    Posted on December 13, 2013 - 11:07 PM #
  5. skeptical
    Member

    Skybill, reports say the school had armed security on duty.

    How come guns didn't prevent this shooting? Hmm?

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    Btw, if the school had armed security, it invalidates the "Gun Free Zone" argument.

    Posted on December 13, 2013 - 11:49 PM #
  6. Vitalogy
    Member

    What's the difference between Japan and the US?????

    Are the Japanese genetically less inclined to shoot people?

    Or is it because there are less guns in Japan?

    When the stats are "per capita" that takes away the population argument.

    So, what's the difference?

    Posted on December 14, 2013 - 01:18 PM #
  7. edselehr
    Member

    Bill, whether its stated on a sign or not, every public school in America is a "Gun Free Zone" for everyone except law enforcement - same as banks, federal buildings, etc. Which is the way I think most every person in America wants it to be.

    And just like every other regulation in existence, criminals will ignore them and do what they want. But you seem to believe in "magical laws" that, once passed, should forever stop that prohibited action.

    Kind of the same as conservatives thinking that banning abortions will stop abortions. It won't.

    Posted on December 14, 2013 - 04:34 PM #
  8. Skybill9
    Member

    "...same as banks..."

    Banks are not included in this. I carry into my bank all the time.

    However, Post Offices are included.

    "And just like every other regulation in existence, criminals will ignore them and do what they want."

    Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Finally someone gets what I've said all along. Now, please convince the rest of your friends of that.

    "But you seem to believe in "magical laws" that, once passed, should forever stop that prohibited action."

    Whoa nelly. I've NEVER stated anything even close to that. I've always said that no matter how many laws are passed the criminals are not going to stop being criminals.

    I think you have that statement backwards. That is what our resident gun hater thinks.

    Posted on December 14, 2013 - 04:45 PM #
  9. edselehr
    Member

    Are you saying that regulations are useless? Since criminals will always find a way to break the laws, we shouldn't have laws?

    Posted on December 14, 2013 - 04:49 PM #
  10. paulwalker
    Member

    I don't like to generalize, but Colorado seems to be building a history of this kind of tragedy. Random? Or is there something about CO that brings this on?

    Posted on December 14, 2013 - 05:31 PM #