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Black Friday violence

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  1. Vitalogy
    Member

    All of this just to save a few bucks on crap you don't need anyway?

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/25/9012057-black-friday-violence-2-shot-in-armed-robberies-15-others-pepper-sprayed

    Violence erupted at Black Friday sales across the U.S. with one bargain-hunter left critically injured after being shot during a robbery and 15 other people injured when an angry shopper used pepper spray.

    Several of the incidents took place at Wal-Mart stores as millions of Americans loaded up on holiday purchases.

    Update 12:17 p.m. ET: A robot removed a suspicious device that led to the evacuation of a Wal-Mart store in Cave Creek, Ariz., Maricopa County, sheriff's deputies said.

    Deputies told KPHO-TV of Phoenix that they had reason to believe the device might have been an explosive and said whoever left it in a refrigerator at the store Thursday could face felony charges. Police dogs swept the store for further possible devices, they said, and the store reopened late Thursday night, KPHO reported.

    Update 11:57 a.m. ET: An off-duty police officer used pepper spray on shoppers at a Wal-Mart in Kinston, N.C.

    Kinston police Sgt. Roland Davis said an off-duty officer whom the store had hired to help with security used the chemical while trying to make an arrest during a disturbance. Unconfirmed reports said as many as 20 peopl ewer affected.

    Updated 10:55 a.m. ET: A Rome, N.Y., man was charged with disorderly conduct after a fight that broke out the moment Black Friday shopping began at midnight, NBC station WSTM of Syracuse, N.Y., reported.

    Several shoppers at the electronics department at a Wal-Mart store were pushed to the ground, and several fights broke out, Oneida County sheriff's deputies said. Two shoppers were taken to a hospital for minor injuries.

    Updated 10:39 a.m. ET: Police said they were investigating a possible shooting in the parking lot of Valley West Mall in West Des Moines, Iowa, NBC station WHO reported. There was no immediate report that anyone was injured.

    Police got a call of shots fired shortly before 4 a.m., when the mall opened. They wouldn't say whether they had a suspect, and they reassured shoppers that the mall is safe..

    Updated 9:50 a.m. ET: A 55-year-old shopper was shot and wounded during a robbery near a Wal-Mart in Myrtle Beach, S.C., NBC station WMBF reported.

    Tonia Robbins, 55, was shot in the foot after two men demanded her purse shortly after 1 a.m. ET Friday as she stood by the trunk of her car with friends.

    Updated 9:45 a.m. ET: An explosive device was found at a break room at a Wal-Mart in Cave Creek, Ariz., according to reports Friday.

    Maricopa County Sheriff's Office said a suspicious package was found inside a refrigerator in the store break room on Thursday. The store was evacuated as a precaution while deputies investigated the package.

    Updated at 9:40 a.m. ET: A Black Friday shopper was shot and critically injured during a robbery outisde a Wal-Mart in San Leandro, Calif., early Friday, police said.

    Police patrolling the parking lot found a victim suffering a gunshot wound and a possible suspect being detained by family members of the victim.

    Police said the victims were walking to their car with their purchases and were approached by multiple suspects who demanded the merchandise.

    A fight ensued and one suspect pulled out a gun and shot one of the victims. Some of the victims wrestled down one suspect as the other suspect fled the scene.

    The victim who was shot is in critical but stable condition at a local hospital. The suspect in custody is an adult male in his mid '20s, but it is not known if he was the shooter.

    Updated at 7.30 a.m. ET: An angry woman used pepper spray when Black Friday bargain-hunters tried to cut in line at a crowded Wal-Mart store in Los Angeles late Thursday, leaving 15 people with minor injuries. The incident occurred shortly after 10:20 p.m. PT (1:20 a.m. ET Friday) in the San Fernando Valley as shoppers looking for deals were let inside the outlet.

    Shawn Lenske, a Los Angeles fire department spokesman, said the injuries were due to "rapid crowd movement."

    Video uploaded to youTube shows shopper recovering after one woman allegedly doused them in pepper spray as they battled for bargains at a Walmart in Los Angeles. NBC's Kristen Dahlgren reports.
    NBC News reported police said no more than 15 were hurt, 10 of them for the effects of inhalation of pepper spray.

    Police Lt. Abel Parga said a woman used pepper spray, then left. Parga said police were looking for the woman and no arrests have been made.

    "It was an unhappy customer,'' he said.

    A witness told Los Angeles' NBC4 that the incident started as people waited in line for the new Xbox 360.

    The witness said a woman with two children in tow became upset with the way people were pushing in line. The witness said the woman pulled out pepper spray and sprayed the other people.

    NBC News quoted a police officer as saying the flare-up was triggered when a crowd rushed toward merchandise following a "big reveal" of items that had been hidden by draping.

    One section of the store was cleared while patients were treated and the pepper spray dissipated, Parga said. People were seen pouring out of the store, but customers were allowed back in to continue shopping.

    The dispute came as as stores opened their doors at midnight — a few hours earlier than they normally do on the most anticipated shopping day of the year.

    Update at 5:45 a.m. ET: Authorities say gunfire erupted at a North Carolina mall as holiday shoppers gathered, the Associated Press reported.

    The Cumberland County Sheriff's Office said detectives were looking for two suspects after gunfire rang out at Cross Creek Mall in Fayetteville early Friday. No injuries were reported.

    The first shots were fired around 2 a.m. outside the mall near a food court entrance. Investigators say several more shots were fired after one of the suspects ran inside the mall.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 10:43 AM #
  2. Valerie ring
    Member

    Just read the pepper spray story out of L.A. And police say the woman who did it was "trying to get a competetive edge". They say she sprayed children and I ask, "What were you doing keeping your children up after bedtime?" I was at the Porter Ranch Walmart in September and believe me there is nothing in that tiny store worth losing sleep over,or any store for that matter.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 11:05 AM #
  3. johnf
    Member

    For some reason I envision video of all the above, but with Amy Grant singing "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" in the background....

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 11:14 AM #
  4. missing_kskd
    Member

    Just nuts.

    IMHO, a lot of that is driven by extremely high expectations. We hype the sale time big. That hype is borderline morbid currently.

    Factor in people being oppressed in various ways, buying into that hype, setting their own expectations really high, and suddenly "nothing else matters", resulting in the kind of fucked up priorities seen here.

    By contrast, I was actually in the Cornelius Walmart yesterday evening to score the Xbox Kinect for my brother in law. He wanted the thing, as his existing one broke, and he's not feeling good. Honestly, I had a nice experience. They had queues setup. Arrive while the queue is being filled, get a ticket, camp out in line until they pull the trigger on the deal.

    Met Dave and some woman I can't remember her name... We talked for two hours and the time passed quickly. Dave and I exchanged phone numbers, and I've a friend out of the deal.

    Of course, none of us had high expectations either. We were there, time was right, and we had time to burn.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 11:23 AM #
  5. Deane Johnson
    Member

    This is a reflection of the general degradation of people's conduct.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 11:41 AM #
  6. motozak3
    Member

    *laughs at Deane*

    Yeaaaahhhhhh, you should talk.......

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 01:08 PM #
  7. Deane Johnson
    Member

    Why is it that a liberal just has to turn into a moron in every thread?

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 01:18 PM #
  8. motozak3
    Member

    Beats me.

    Here's a thought: next time you come across one of these, how you say, "liberals", why don't you just ask them? You know, learn by doing. But don't call them names unless you really desire to come across as immature.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 02:36 PM #
  9. Bryan_oneal
    Member

    Perhaps stores will re-think this "sale begins at midnight" fiasco... seems to bring out more of the criminal element than before .

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 05:56 PM #
  10. skeptical
    Member

    Check IDs at the store -- anyone with a trailer park address (you know, space #) is forbidden to enter.

    Posted on November 25, 2011 - 07:32 PM #